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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 04:57 PM
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Maersk has praised and thanked the US Navy, but have they either in Va. or Denmark offered
to reimburse the US taxpayers for this mission?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 05:00 PM
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1. NOT. SUPPOSED. TO.
The US Navy exists specifically for the purpose of protecting against pirates - read Article I Section
8 of the Constitution:

Among the powers of the Congress:

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 05:30 PM
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2. I am perfectly okay with my tax dollars being used
to save lives. It's the killing with my money that bothers me.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 11:41 PM
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21. That's my opinion, too.
The Navy did its job here, and did it well.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 06:32 PM
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3. The ship was on a relief mission, so we had an investment in it.
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 06:41 PM by Historic NY
Its under the control U.S. Maritime Administration & our Transportation Command. The company might be in Denmark but its US division is entirely run by a US Board of Directors.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 06:35 PM
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4. Where the hell do some people on this site come from?
:wtf:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:15 PM
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11. I can guess
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 11:00 PM
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19. Unfortunately, some of them come from the internet. n/t
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 06:50 PM
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5. Would you expect reimbursement when
Police catch guy who broke into your house?
When LEO prevents a rape should the would be rape victim provide recourse?

If Fire department puts out a fire should homeowner pay?
Does it matter if fire is put out before or after it burns house down?

One of the reasons for US Navy existence is to defend commerical shipping from pirates.

Yeah we rarely use that aspect but it is a defined role for US Navy.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:08 PM
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7. I'm not the best example for those questions, I would not expect the police to care if

someone broke into my house.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:30 PM
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14. Like Gov. Palin wanting to make rape victims pay for rape evidence kits?
:crazy:
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 06:52 PM
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6. No, and they shouldn't.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:11 PM
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8. Let's Just Give the Good Captain Back to the Pirates
until they cough up the bucks. I'm sure the Navy takes credit cards in case the company doesn't have any cash on hand...

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:13 PM
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9. I didn't say anything about requiring payment.

But just make up whatever lie you want.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:22 PM
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12. Ever Hear of a Synonym?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:14 PM
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10. Gee, what price is a merchant marine going for these days?
:crazy:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:28 PM
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13. Are we now to assume that shipping companies are penniless paupers who cannot afford
to hire seriously professional security teams to protect their vessels when they are in known pirate-infested waters?

I would think that would fall under the "cost of doing business" category in the expenses column. I would rather see Xe, aka BlackWater, doing this kind of protection stuff than have them guarding our embassies.


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:33 PM
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17. There are severe legal problems with that
I think the idea has merit, but most countries have strict laws against people other than the military carrying weapons. Shipping does not just occur in international waters.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:58 PM
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18. You may be right about that; however, when it's known that these types of incidents are
occurring on a regular basis, and there is danger of loss of life, I would think there could be some accomodation. If there isn't already one.

For some reason, I am thinking that defending oneself from unlawful boarding on the high seas is considered legitimate grounds for self defense. Maybe I'm wrong.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 11:17 PM
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20. Use of deadly force to stop an unlawful boarding is legal on the high seas
Because anyone who is boarding a vessel unlawfully is a threat to life and limb.

The problem is in territorial waters of countries that do not allow civilians to carry weapons.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:32 PM
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15. Having the Navy protect US citizens against international criminals at sea is free
Or to be more precise, a benefit of being a US citizen that is paid for by the taxpayers.

It's a single-payer system.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:32 PM
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16. You don't really "get" the military, police, etc do you?
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