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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:25 PM
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Poll question: Performers who you refuse to watch/listen to due to their political/religious nutbaggery
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:26 PM by QueenOfCalifornia
My list of actors/actresses whom I can't tolerate watching has grown over the last few years - Not due to them being unable to act but due to their political affiliation with the reich wing.

Then there is the musician file.

I can't include all of them but check in with your favorite MUST NOT SEE list.

Here is a list I found using the google: http://www.ronaldreagan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5706
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:29 PM
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1. woody allen
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:29 PM by marketcrazy1
he married his adopted daughter after raising her from a child.. to much for me. have not watched anything he has done since.......
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 PM
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8. Well, he's a lech, but he is a progressive...
So, I guess that makes him OUR progressive lech
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:35 PM
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25. I refuse to watch him, too. Coming between a mother and her child
is way out of line, especially when you were practically married to the mother.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:22 PM
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58. I don't think she was HIS adopted child...
She was adopted by Mia and Andre Previn...

snip>"In 1970, Farrow married German-American Jewish musician André Previn. His former wife, songwriter Dory Previn, blamed Farrow for the end of her relationship with Previn and wrote a scathing song, entitled "Beware of Young Girls", about the incident. Farrow and Previn had three children of their own (twins Matthew and Sascha, born in 1970, and Fletcher, born in 1974). They adopted Vietnamese infants Lark Song and Summer Song ("Daisy") in 1973 and 1976, respectively, followed by the adoption of eight-year-old Soon-Yi from Korea around 1978. André and Mia divorced in 1979, but remained on good terms. Lark died on Christmas Day of 2008.<15>

Beginning around 1980, Farrow entered a twelve-year romantic relationship with film director Woody Allen, although they never married or lived together.<unsnip

It was still a shit thing to do to Mia, but I
don't think she ever thought of
Allen as "daddy".
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:12 PM
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76. She was adopted by Andre Previn.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 03:12 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 12:00 AM
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113. It's still gross.
:puke:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:26 AM
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114. Yeah, but I recall Woody saying he first noticed her when she was about 13 or 14. ugh. Lech
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:29 PM
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2. Mel Gibson and Robert Duvall are considerable talents
The rest of them are either minor talents or are no longer doing much of anything so they're easy to avoid.

Where was Dennis Miller, by the way? He's as funny as a migraine and I would go out of my way to avoid him.
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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12. i can watch
actors who`s politics I do not agree with. I just dont pay attention to anything they say "off screen" with the exception of woody Allen. dont watch his movies at all, change the channel when i see him on..
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:30 PM
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3. I never would have watched Ted Nugent regardless...
Actually, I think it is Patricia Heaton that pisses me off the most. Although, give me a few minutes and I'll think of many more...:eyes:
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:32 PM
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11. I wanted to include
Patricia Heaton but there are not enough spaces for all of the idiots I can't look at any more.

I didn't include Denis Miller because he was just so obvious. I don't think he is funny and I doubt that anyone using this site can watch the douche.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:48 PM
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37. I used to like Heaton...then I heard her speak.
Wow. That's a whole lot of RW wingnut.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:07 PM
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87. What's up with "Feminists for Life", anyway?
Isn't that kind of like "Turkeys for Thanksgiving"? :shrug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:47 AM
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131. ...
:spray:

:thumbsup:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:30 PM
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4. None--because I don't conflate their political views with their talents.
I could give a crap about their politics.

That being said, I never listen to Nugent because his music sounds like screaming gerbils in a blender.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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17. Second that....
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 02:28 PM by Mike Daniels
I can be friends w/ people despite political differences and I can appreciate somebody's talent regardless of their political affiliation.

I find it funny there are those who won't watch anything a particular actor may do because of the political yet they'll go watch a Polanski movie even though he fled this country to escape criminal prosecution.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:45 PM
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34. I think it's just as silly as the Freepers who hate the Dixie Chicks or
Sean Penn and won't watch them because of their politics. It's childish.

If you don't like that actor as an actor, that's one thing. But if you don't like him because of who he voted for, that's just silly.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:38 PM
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103. Agreed. I don't support blacklisting for political reasons. n/t
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Mamacrat Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:54 AM
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135. Not just political.
I think some of these aren't for political reasons, but moral or ethical reasons. Like Woody Allen marrying his young step-daughter. (I can't remember if he and Mia were actually married, but even if not he was her de-facto step-father.) Roman Polanski and rape. I've still watched their films, but do feel conflicted about supporting them by watching them.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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22. I never even heard of Ted Nugent until bush became president..
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:42 PM
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31. I had the misfortune of being at a concert of his.
I wanted to see Night Ranger. Unfortunately, The Nooooge was up first. It was bloody awful. This was about 1997 or so.

I had heard his two semi-hit songs from the 70s whilst growing up, but I can't say I was ever a big fan.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:31 PM
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63. Rhino's Heavy Metal box set has all the Nuge I'll ever need
Cat Scratch Fever.

Only decent thing he ever wrote.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:57 PM
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83. I think I need a burned copy of Rhino's heavy metal box set.
(hint, hint) :-)
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Fozzledick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 08:11 PM
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93. I used to give Nugent more credit than he deserved
until he made it clear that he was the only one in the band who DIDN'T know what "Journey to the Center of the Mind" was all about.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:46 PM
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35. You clearly weren't running in the circles of drugs and hard rock in the 70s/80s
Nugent was a big name act in the 70s
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:49 PM
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38. I always liked this album cover as a kid:


Didn't realize his music was lamer than the cover, though.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:54 PM
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42. Ha...I had Free for All when I was young, that's about it
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:05 PM
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52. I guess we were more of a Peter Frampton household.
We had Frampton Comes Alive on the 8-track. We didn't have the Nooooooooooooge.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:24 PM
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59. My older sister was a real 'head' in the 70s, taught me all I knew back then
So we had both. My real musical love happened via Black Sabbath and Alice Cooper ... to this day! lol
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:33 PM
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65. ...well, minus the Alice Cooper. But I remain a loyal Sabbath fan
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:37 PM
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70. I love some old Sabbath.
I actually liked the Dio era better than the Ozzy era, though.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:44 PM
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32. +1
Hell, I probably would even like 90% of the performers if I knew them personally.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:55 PM
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43. Dead on! +1
But I would also say that Norris is not good for much but laughs at his bad acting...and Miller isn't funny anymore unless you still don't get his 1 joke.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:57 PM
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46. Yep, this
I'll avoid Tom Cruise out of a specific desire not to contribute a buck towards Scientology knowingly if I can help it, but that's a manageable exception. Screening everything I watch, read and listen to for the off-source political views of its creator would get exhausting quickly.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:55 PM
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82. Same here
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:24 PM
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99. That's probably his idea of dessert.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 09:24 PM by Maru Kitteh
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:24 PM
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100. Agreed
But most of them I didn't like before I knew their views.

If, like Gibson's "Passion of the Christ", their views and art mix, I get to ignore them completely.

I also find that Drew Carey interjects a lot of his viewpoint on "The Price is Right" so I never watch it anymore. I used to feel good watching people win things.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:31 PM
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106. Does he? Drew Carey, that is? I never watch that show, and I've
never been a huge fan of his (I liked "What's My Line" but mostly for the talented impromptu comedians on there). But why does he have to ruin a game show with libertarian patter?

Ben Stein didn't do that with "Win BS's Money." That was just a funny game show.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:39 PM
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104. Agreed. n/t
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:30 PM
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5. Nugent
I actually think he's a talented guitar player, but when he said something about sticking a gun up Hillary Clinton's glory hole, or something like that, that did it. I got sop angry that I sold my Nugent L.P.s and gava away a cd.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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13. I refuse to listen to anything by Nugent
Not because he's a rightwingnut but because he's a washed up no talent hack.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:58 PM
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47. He is washed up NOW
But back in the '70's, he was quite good. And one just doesn't lose their guitar playing talent. And he can play. But his views are just too extreme for me.
Little tale about Nugent. Last year he was at a fair around here for "rock night" (they mostly have country acts) and about two or three days later, someone wrote a ltte about how he was not good for family values because of his "kill 'em all" statements about brown people. So people are catching on to his lunacy and getting turned off by it.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:58 PM
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49. Ahhh, there's a difference
back in teh 70's he was a no-talent hack, too.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:01 PM
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50. Whatever
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I know one thing for sure though, disco did and always will suck. Just sayin'.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:30 PM
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6. I won't support the cult. n/t
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 PM
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'Stranglehold' is on my iPod sometimes.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM by liberalmuse
And maybe 'Top Gun' because the pro-gayness of it balances out the wing nuttery of Cruise, and I watch it for Kilmer, anyway. Never cared for Cruise. Kelsey Grammar gets a pass. The rest? Meh. Except I actually do go out of my way to avoid Mel Gibson shit. He's become so unappealing.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:35 PM
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24. Top Gun looked like pages from the International Male catalogue. nt
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:51 AM
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134. Looking like that is one of the minimum job qualifications. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 PM
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7. Sad to see Duvall on the list
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM by rocktivity
I've been a longtime fan of his--I mean, since the original Twilight Zone TV series and To Kill A Mockingbird.

:(
rocktivity
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:32 PM
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10. Yes... me too
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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19. Me too...
I love him. But when I see him I think of him and his politics - it ruins the moment.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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21. He's one of the best character actors out there
I hire him for his storytelling, not his politics.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:34 PM
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68. Yup... which is why I definitely tolerate his views...
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 PM
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9. Other
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:32 PM by WeDidIt
I attempt to divest the art from the artist. Having known many artists it's obvious to me that asshattery runs strong amongst the creatively gifted.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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14. Kirk Cameron and that silly Fireproof movie, or whatever it is
I hear ads for it on cable all the time.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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15. Even Nugent's 70s classics are tainted by his right-wing assholism of now. And I can't hear KISS....
w/o thinking about what a right-wing dick Gene Simmons is
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:33 PM
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16. Pat Boone. n/t
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:46 PM
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36. Does anybody
ever even have a Pat Boone moment? I mean, he hasn't been doing a lot of anything for... EVER.

I guess I could have included everyone who ever was a guest star on Lawrence Welk Show...


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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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18. I picked other because there are just too many.
Jon Cryer (Two and a Half Men) is one that really pissed me off. I really used to enjoy that show, and now I just have such a hard time watching it knowing he's a Repuke.

Chuck Norris was no big loss to me, as I always found him to be a bad actor at best, and a mediocre personality.

Woody Allen is just strange, I also think it's a little weird that he married his adopted daughter.

Tom Cruise...little man, big ego. He's a decent actor, but pretty full of himself.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:29 PM
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62. Jon Cryer? Working with a Sheen? Damn...
Martin has even guested on that show, iirc. I didn't know he was a wingnut.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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20. Robert Duvall. I expected better from him. Plus, not watching him is a
sacrifice, since he's actually a pretty good actor. The caveat is that I DO watch The Godfather. I won't give up Pacino and De Niro for anybody.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:03 PM
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96. He was also in Network and that is a movie that all progressives should watch.
I don't know anything about Duvall's politics other than that he is a Republican and I prefer to keep it that way because he has been in some really good movies.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:35 PM
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23. Penn Jillette. I used to think he was cool until I saw him on Glenn Beck's show. WTF?
That's a good list, but I don't see any point in trying to single one out to vote for. I'd rather just watch and see who gets added to the list.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:53 PM
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41. Penn is a quintessential libertarian...so is Teller.
They hate religion...but big government too. And when it comes to ecology? They're downright idiotic.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:31 PM
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64. What the heck were you doing...
...watching Glen Beck?

I mean this whole thread is about not watching people whose politics you disagree with.

:crazy:
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:59 PM
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73. I didn't say I WATCHED him, I said I SAW him. I was flipping through the channels.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:19 PM
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77. Ah, yes. An important distinction.
:hi:
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:21 PM
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78. Damn right, and I had the sound muted too.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:36 PM
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26. They're actors. Why would I care?
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:39 PM by Occam Bandage
The point of acting is for the audience to suspend their belief; if Tom Cruise is acting well, I am able to effortlessly deceive myself into believing that I am not watching Tom Cruise, but rather that I am watching "Maverick" Mitchell. Tom Cruise's political/religious views are no more a problem than is the fact that Tom Cruise is not really a fighter pilot.

The point of acting is for the audience to suspend their belief; if Mel Gibson is acting well, I am able to effortlessly deceive myself into believing that I am not watching Mel Gibson, but rather that I am watching William Wallace. Mel Gibson's political/religious views are no more a problem than is the fact that Mel Gibson is not really a Scottish knight.

The point of acting is for the audience to suspend their belief; if Kelsey Grammar is acting well, I am able to effortlessly deceive myself into believing that I am not watching Kelsey Grammar, but rather that I am watching Frasier Crane. Kelsey Grammar's political/religious views are no more a problem than is the fact that Kelsey Grammar is not really a radio psychiatrist.
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:09 PM
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75. Sometimes those actors fit their roles quite well.
Jon Voight as Defense Secretary John Keller in http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/">Transformers: "I want our president (Bush) in that bunker, and I won't discuss a damned thing other 'til that becomes reality. That's our first priority, that's our only priority..."
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:36 PM
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27. I think Robert Duvall had bat-shit crazy rightwing parents ....
Someone told me once that he read that Duvall's parents were complete rightwing nuts to the point that they didn't want Robert to become an actor because they were afraid it would make him gay ... he didn't have much of a chance escaping some of that type of brainwashing
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:53 PM
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40. So did I
(have batshit crazy rightwing parents)

I also have an I.Q. higher than room temperature. I travelled and met people and developed my own sense of morality. Not some fucking batshit crazy pablum spoon fed into me along with the N word and hate speak. If my mother could have worn a white sheet over her head to the grocery store, she would have done it.

I excuse no one when it comes to growing up and understanding right from wrong.

I am not saying Duvall is an idiot - I just do not understand it at all.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:37 PM
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28. More than one
Cruise, Gibson, Willis, Pitt (overexposed), Jolie (waaaay overexposed).

I stop watching them when their presence in the film disrupts the suspension of disbelief. Every time I see Tom Cruise in a movie all I can think of is him jumping on Opra's goddamn couch.

Ever notice how often as not a star's politics seem go paralell their fans politics? Or is it just me?
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:17 AM
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141. Not that "Troy" was that good but Brad Pitt ruined it
simply because you didn't see "Achilles" on screen, you saw Brad Pitt. Every other actor at least seemed to lose themselves in their roles. Pitt looked like he was doing a Breck's hair shampoo commercial
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:36 AM
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146. Heh
Same with Gibson in Braveheart. Notice how every poor commoner in that movie had bad hair and teeth but him and the queen he had sex with?

It seemed to me that Pitt never actually portrayed the inevitability of Greek tragedy. But I would need to read up on all that to make sure.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:37 PM
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29. most of these are actors who are in movies that suck, which is why i won't watch them.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:39 PM
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30. I'll watch Gibson and Cruise, but the others taint whatever they appear in...at least for me
:shrug:
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:44 PM
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33. I don't really care what their personal views are.
It's a free country and if they are talented actors, writers, or singers, I'll watch, read or listen to their artistic work.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:50 PM
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39. A couple of those are so damn good they could be Nazi's for all I care.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:51 PM by YOY
James Woods, Robert Duvall, Mel Gibson, and even Jon Voight (except Anaconda...he got upstaged by fecking Ice Cube...I guess he needed the money.) these are great actors.

Now Miller, Norris, and the Nuge? Really not worth paying attention to on basis of talant alone.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:55 PM
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44. Did you see
Miller on the list?

Norris is a hack but he has some sort of "draw" :shrug:

Nugent is a total prick - I hate the guy.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:58 PM
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48. Sorry. I got Stein and Miller mixed up.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 02:00 PM by YOY
At any rate they've both got one joke but Stein was Nixon's speechwriter before someone discovered his boring ass for the sake of entertainment.

Norris' draw is mostly due to his cheese factor and a fundie fan base. He has made some really bad C grade fundie movies (like Kirk Cameron and Willie Ames).

Norris also has oodles of tough guy jokes and the Conan O'Brian's running gag of Walker Texas Ranger clips. My wife and I watch Walker sometimes just to see how long we can go without laughing at it's sheer horridness.

The Nuge really is not talented but more remembered for his loudmouth persona. Try to listen to "Wango Tango" for more than 5 minutes without dreaming of murder.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:56 PM
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45. If they are good at what they do, I watch them. If not, I don't.
nt

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:08 PM
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55. Amen.
I don't care what they do in the voting booth.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:01 PM
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51. I'm against the blacklisting thang
I'm not going to do unto others what others did unto the Dixie Chicks.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:33 PM
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66. Blacklisting implies we organize against one or more...
This poll, I believe, is asking about your personal views and what you would do.... Big difference, I think... I'd have had no problem with the wingnuts vis-a-vis the dixie chicks if they had just elected personally not to go to concerts or buy their music. They DID organize against them, even to the point of death threats.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:06 PM
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53. I was never a Tom Cruise fan but his odd behavior/ Svengali-ness pushes him further down my list.
If I really liked him as an actor, his jerky antics wouldn't make much difference. But, I always had the sense that something was off about him, and not in a good way.
I never thought he was cute back in the mid 1980s to early 90s when he was marketed as a heart throb. And I certainly wouldn't trade places with Katie Holmes, as wealthy as she is now that she married him.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:08 PM
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54. only the ones who have shows on faux news.
if the artist's work isn't political in nature- then i don't give a rat's ass about their politics.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:10 PM
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56. I can't stomach either Ted Nugent or Chuck Norris.
Never have been able to. I refuse to subject myself to either of their work. That they have such nutty politics is sort of icing on the cake I guess. :shrug:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:15 PM
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57. I try not to let an artist's politics shape my perception of their ART, but
I must admit, it felt a little funny listening to the Ramones after Johnny said "God bless President Bush" at their RnR HoF induction, and I read up on his politics and it turns out he was a repuke the whole time.

:(

Still great music, which I still enjoy immensely.
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:25 PM
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60. Cruise, Gibson and Metalika
Crazy, Religious Nut, and greedy bastards who sue their fans.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:26 PM
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61. I won't spend money to see certain folks perform.
Seriously. I refuse to spend any money on seeing movies by guys like Mel Gibson or Chuck Norris. I absolutely refuse to ever give a cent of my money as a royalty to a guy like Nugent.

It doesn't mean I am confusing their politics with their art, it means that I find them to be annoying pussbag conservatives that do not deserve a cent of my liberal cash. I get to choose who I spend my hard earned cash on, and they are not on the "approved by Laura" list.

:shrug:


Laura

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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:33 PM
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67. Roert Duvall
I was watching an episode of The Fugitive a couple weeks ago with Robert Duvall as a guest star. Back when he still had hair. Though with the bad Scandi accent he used, you never would have thought he'd turn into a better actor.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:35 PM
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69. Dennis what's his name who used to be a comedian on SNL. n/t
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:57 PM
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71. You've forgotten DENNIS MILLER? Good for you.
I wish I could. I see him lurking around in the odd corners of the broadcast day, still pushing his right-wing politics and his pop-culture-reference humor.

For the record, Mr. Miller, being able to refer to somebody as "a Jar Jar Binks politician" or whatever you're doing is pandering to the audience's pop culture savvy. It says more about you and your crippled sense of what is funny than about the target of your hatred.

(Note: I don't think Miller ever referred to President Obama as "a Jar Jar Binks politician." But honestly...doesn't it sound exactly like the kind of jokes Miller made?)
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 05:21 PM
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91. He's awful!
And yes that is the 'man' that I was referring to. I wonder how long it will be until I forget his last name again! Peace, Kim
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:19 AM
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116. Should have been listed in this poll but the OP forgot him too!
He tops my list of forgotten/forgetful folks as well.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:51 AM
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133. That's my pick, Miller has completely gone around the bend and is about as funny as
the 9/ll attacks.

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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:57 PM
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72. all of those & John Malkovich
I have a bad memory, bad bad bad, like seriously brain-damaged. But somehow whenever I hear of a famous person voting Republican I can't forget it. It's a weird thing my brain does.. wasteful bitterness I can't let go of.

I know that's lame, it's just the truth :crazy:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:34 PM
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108. Malkovich is a Republican?
He sure doesn't come across that way.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 06:54 AM
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120. yah, I know right..?
I used to really like him. Now I just find him creepy.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:07 PM
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74. i find the idea
of screening performers based on their political views to be stupid. I would say the same for those on the right who refuse to see performers based on their liberal views. Are you people who do this so insecure in your views, so threatened that you think you'll be tainted with them and start going all right wing? Also does everything be political in nature? Call me crazy, but I don't think it's desirable to judge every aspect of our lives in terms of politics.


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:22 PM
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79. all the above and others mentioned in this thread along with
penn (he sounded to repukie for me one time i saw him yapping on some show), alice cooper--not that he's doing much anymore (feel so betrayed, went to tons of his concerts and bought his albums...dickhead), and dennis miller goes off my tv as quickly as he comes on.

when i first learned about jon voight--well, let me say it really ruined zoolander for me. then again, the character he plays is as intelligent as his fucking politics!

to people who think it's stupid to be so politically biased that we can't enjoy a movie/sitcom/or concert--well, to some of us, i guess politics became everything, tainting the world we live in, and to show my support to these freaks who continued to poison america's well--i just couldn't do it. i can't watch any of them and get my mind away from the reality of the person behind the character/music/show--that's how angry i was (and apparently still am).

too much vitriol to set aside
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:25 PM
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80. Couple of local broadcasters
A host on the local "morning zoo" radio show is really a VERY funny guy, does some good things for the community, (lost his wife to that diet suppliment, efinaril?, she literaly died in his arms) and is an all around #1 dad type. But he turned right after 9/11 and I just can't listen to him any more.

Another is a local tv weather guy who is a major global climate change denier.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:52 PM
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81. I've learned to separate the art from the artists...
For myself, I've learned to separate the art from the artists.

If I didn't do that, I'd be a very, very bored person.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:57 PM
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84. I've never liked Nugent's music. But I've enjoyed most of these RWers' work
Chuck Norris is an acquired taste, but most of the other actors have put out some good stuff.

I guess I judge the work by the work itself.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:04 PM
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85. I don't wanna go off on a rant here, but....
I used to watch Dennis Miller all the time on HBO - and he was funny. Sometimes he got a little up his own ass, but he was funny for the most part. I don't know what the hell happened, but I guess it was after September 11th he decided that he needed to become King Douchebag and essentially say that we need to nuke the ME.

So Dennis Miller is it for me. I don't think I'd piss on his head if he were on fire.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:06 PM
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86. Arnold Schwarzenegger in his Total Recall role as Gubernator of Kollyfonya
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:10 PM
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88. Dennis Miller invokes my gag reflex on sight. Dennis Reflux?
not so much refusal as reducing nausea.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:11 PM
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89. Charlton Heston
other than in Bowling For Columbine, I won't watch him.


Also ronnie raygun.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:36 PM
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109. My daughters and I are in the middle of watching Ben Hur.
It's excellent. As is "The Ten Commandments."

I could give a crap about his politics.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 03:44 AM
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118. giving a crap is a good thing.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:12 AM
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123. Agree with you
Growing up we were of the age where we watched all the Charlton Heston biblical vehicles. Now I can hardly stomach watching him. His acting now appears seriously flawed to me. I suppose his mischaracterization of the gun issue has tarnished him in my eyes. And I have been a hunter much of my life. I don't much care for single issue voters. Besides, his best performance was in Planet of the Apes or Soylent Green.
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Nebraska Blue Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:30 PM
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90. Toby Keith
:banghead:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:59 PM
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92. I didn't listen to him even before I knew he was a neocon nutjob
That faux-patriot stuff makes me retch no matter who is doing it.

Go Broncos and welcome to DU!
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:19 PM
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97. He supported Obama.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:33 PM
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107. Don't let facts get in the way of a good hate-on! n/t
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:42 AM
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126. Lol, thanks for that...
me and my pesky facts.

This doesn't mean I listen to Toby Keith (though living in Oklahoma, it happens by accident). This also doesn't mean I agree with his idiot song lyrics.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:38 AM
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130. Thanks for pointing that out . I did not know that!
Generally speaking I run as far in the opposite direction from country music as I possibly can. To me it has always been the anthem of right-wing morans; whenever I hear it I have a deep visceral reaction to find some cowboy motherfucker and punch him right in his ignorant tobacco-chewing face.

Keith is an Obama supporter yet he still produces the faux-patriot crap? How does that work?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 08:16 PM
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94. I have to say with music, the people I would refuse to listen to
for political reasons dovetails very nicely with the people I'd refuse to listen to because their music simply sucks anyway. Ted Nugent. Charlie Daniels. I couldn't stand them long before I learned what real dicks they are. That sort of thing.

Actors? Mel Gibson is so beyond the pale I can't bring myself to watch him or his stuff anymore - even though in the far past he could be pretty entertaining. Patricia Heaton is another one - but I never found her all the compelling anyway.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 08:17 PM
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95. Ted Nugent sucks donkey balls
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:23 PM
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98. I can't vote because I can't decide between Nuggets, Gibson and Cruise for #1.
There are others on the list I refuse to enrich in any way or even tolerate the sight of, but Nuggets and Cruise are IMHO, the nut-baggiest.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:28 PM
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101. Hard to pick the worst, but Ted has to take it for me.
Quite possibly the biggest nut on the planet. If it weren't for his money the guy would be committed or in jail.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:33 PM
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102. Mel Gibson
I don't know why, but ever notice that his roles gradually turned into Catholic heroes? e.g. Priest in "Signs", portrayal of William Wallace in "Braveheart" as a rabid, Latin-speaking "true-believer".

And that was before "Passion of the Christ"
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:42 PM
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105. Dennis Miller turns my stomach
along with most of the people on that list. I'm ok with Kelsey Grammer, Robert Duvall and James Woods, but I've never heard them bloviate about politics.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:17 AM
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124. Dennis Miller is the worst. nt
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:45 PM
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110. Other: Tom Cruise AND Mel Gibson.
Kelsey Grammar, Voight, or Duvall I can overlook (particularly Duvall because of his talent, Voight because I don't care, and Grammar due to the brilliance of the "Frasier" writers and his irrelevance in movies). But Cruise and Gibson are such freaks it has indeed affected how I see them in acting roles. I always thought Cruise was WAY overrated, anyway, and only became A-list because of his good looks. Gibson? Lost his mind. I honestly don't think I can ever watch another movie with either of them in it. It both makes me laugh and makes me retch to read that BOTH of these losers may star in a remake of "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid." Can you imagine?!?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:49 PM
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111. All of the above---except for reruns of Frasier.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:56 PM
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112. What about the inverse?
Performers whose political views you agree with, but whose performances you can't take.

Janene Gerofolo's stand up comedy comes to mind for me. I totally agree with her politics, but her comedy is awful.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:49 AM
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132. Good point. I was just informed that Toby Keith supported Obama
I really wouldn't be much fun at a Toby Keith concert. Really.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:27 AM
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115. I would normally not be exposed to Nugent's music, so I'll pick Mel. I avoid his movies
Sorry Danny Glover!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:38 AM
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117. How is Tom Cruise right wing?
According to this, he's donated $39,000 - all to Democrats. From Barbara Boxer to Hillary Clinton to Thomas Daschle.

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Tom_Cruise.php
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 10:44 AM
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137. A lot of people misunderstood the love scene at the end of "Top Gun" when, in that

one certain moment, Maverick knew that in Iceman he'd found the right wingman....

I'm your huckleberry.



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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 06:44 AM
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119. None
I can divorce my opinion of their person with their work. Big fan of Mel Gibson movies, but think he is a nut job.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:18 AM
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142. You support them through paying for their movies or music and they in turn use that money
to support right wing candidates. Your money goes to support right wingers, but I guess that isn't important to you.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:32 AM
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145. Don't take yourself so seriously
or look for being so offended all the time. Not a good way to live.

I cannot remember actually paying for a "right winger's" movie... Maybe Mad Max 2 or A Force of One (chuck norris) when I was a teen. With two children, most of my video watching is at home through cable, where I am not contributing to "right wing candidates".

And actually, it isn't that important to me even if I was paying for them.

I guess my outrage meter is less than yours.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 06:57 AM
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121. I enjoyed Stephen Baldwin's final scene in 'The Usual Suspects'.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:03 AM
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122. All of the above?
Why should I have to pick just one of those repulsive trolls?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 07:17 AM
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125. Best answer yet! nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:11 AM
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127. None.
I don't watch enough tv, or go to enough movies, for it to really make a difference in my watching habits.

I don't listen to Toby Keith, but then I wouldn't be listening to him anyway, not being a big fan of country music.

I do admit to rarely watching any of Arnold's old movies since he became governor of my former state.

If I watch a movie, it's for entertainment purposes. It's not because of the performers. It's for the story, and the way it is told.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:16 AM
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128. Geez, All Of Them
I couldn't even vote. There was no way to make up my mind given those choices. I loathe all of them.

Like most of the folks, Nugent is high on the list, but i sure can't say he's worse than Ben Stein or some of the others on your list.
GAC
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:25 AM
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129. This is as silly as being concerned with what a food server thinks or says. These are actors it
doesn't matter what they think or say. How hard do you have to try to care about what an actor thinks?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 10:38 AM
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136. You're missing some good work, by talented people
Tom Cruise can go either way (no, I don't mean in reference to those rumors), but in the right property, with the right director, he can be very, very good. He's not massive talent, but he's very capable and has nailed some good roles. I recently saw Valkyrie and was suitably impressed, mainly impressed by the entire project and its relative adherence to what actually happened, but he did acquit himself well as von Stauffenberg. And, yeah, Tropic Thunder was enlightening.

Jon Voight has turned in phenomenal performances and can even make a bit of an impact when, as he's often done in more recent years, basically phones it in. Yeah, he went totally nuts at some point, but he perpetually deserves the title 'great actor.'

Mel Gibson has long been not only a talented and versatile actor on screen but, like a good number of others, has acquitted himself well as a director. I never saw the blood-Jesus film, starring religious nutcase Jim Caviezel (or whatever the spelling is) who conveniently shares initial with the Anglicized Savior, and have no desire to, but Mel Gibson is just another very talented person afflicted by a few too many old demons that eventually got the better of him.

And Robert Duvall? One of the best ever in movies. For that matter, the increasingly bat-guano crazy James Woods is and always has been a truly excellent actor who, like Duvall, typically improves any film in which he appears. Pity that both are so far off the deep end, but knowing that does not diminish my viewing experience.

And if anyone really wants to enjoy Dennis Miller on screen, get hold of Murder At 1600 and play over and over the scene in which he takes a bullet. Most gratifying...

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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 10:45 AM
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138. I think you forgot to add Kirk Cameron to your poll options!
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:07 AM
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139. FUCK Kelsey Grammer
I loved "Frasier" but even though his co-stars supported him throughout his drug problems he sees fit to give financial support to politicans who would deny them equal rights. I'm talking about David Hyde Pierce and John Mahoney, who are both gay. I wonder what they think about that.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:10 AM
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140. Dennis fucking Miller.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:19 AM
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143. At first I agreed with those who refuse to blacklist
then, I started thinking about a star as a corporation, and buying movie/concert tickets or DVDs as similar to buying stock in, or products from that corporation. I'll not have my money line the account of some hack who will turn it over to those who would subvert the Constitution.

That changed my perception from "blacklisting" to "voting with my wallet." No problems with that!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:24 AM
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144. I can usually separate the person from their performances
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 11:27 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
There are a lot of actors/actresses/celebrities whose work I enjoy irrespective of their personal political persuasion and personal lives. As far as their personal politics go, well, they have a right to their own political beliefs and to speak out publicly when they want to whether or not I agree with them. I didn't like how the Dixie Chicks, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, et. al were treated by wingnuts and the corporate whore media when they spoke out about Iraq and other issues during the Bush years and I don't believe we should treat right-wing celebrities any differently than we would an ordinary citizen (although they have a platform that a lot of other people to speak out on things that are important to them that a lot of "ordinary" people don't have but still....). Sure, some of that stuff is sometimes in the back of my mind when I watch a movie featuring somebody whose politics I disagree with, but mostly it doesn't negatively affect my enjoyment of their professional work
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:42 AM
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147. If they perform AS a wingnut, I'm not interested, otherwise
it has really nothing to do with it in my mind. For instance, Dennis Miller is a wingnut, not a problem, but his "act" is offensively wingnut and I have no interest in him. A counter example is John Travolta (maybe or maybe not a wingnut, but certainly a Scientologist). I'm no fan of the cult, but I have no proiblem watching his movies (except for that craptacular Battlefield Earth).

I simply don't know any of these people (or the political left's cohort) to make such judgements. Being republican in itself isn't worthy of a boycott, anymore than being a democrat makes one entertaining. The only ones being rewarded under the celebrity culture wars are those that don't speak out.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:57 AM
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148. Travolta's not on the Right.

And, from what I've gathered, he's a decent dude. Yeah, the Scientology thing is odd, to say the very least, but I think he means well and he's done some good things...I remember him and Kelly Preston loading up his jet to ferry supplies to New Orleans when the US government appeared unwilling to do so.
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 01:29 PM
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149. But that's my point, sort of...
Insisting that an entertainer's politics/religion/sexuality/favorite brand of beer match a purity test of some sort is just plain counterproductive and leads to silencing those that really care about their careers...no coincidence that the most vocal on both sides seem to be b-list or semi washed-up stars. Even among the very vocal and active, the opportunity to really discusss their viewpoints in any depth is rare.

I don't insist on seeing a democratic party stamp of approval on an emergency room doctor...a diploma from an accredited college is enough. I also don't care if my mechanic has a matching position on the current war, but I do want to know if he or she can handle a wrench. Why in the world would I have higher standards for a mere entertainer, especially when I'm paying for them to give me a glimpse at a pretend world?
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