Integrity Now? What happened to Kucinich?

[Fireweed247]

This Kucinich supporter seems a tad bit rude, but I have been wondering this myself? Does anyone know what happened with Dennis and Elizabeth's new site?




"Although it has been over a year, some may remember that as Kucinich dropped out of the presidential election prematurely because he was afraid of losing his congressional seat, he said he and his wife Elizabeth would be starting a new site for activists called "Integrity Now". This might have impressed Kucinich volunteers at the time, however absolutely nothing has been done toward that effort and the site domain has now returned to the SiteGround Default Server page."
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/04/13/18588405.php

[lamp_shade]

1. Most of his supporters are here on DU now.

[Fireweed247]

3. okay, maybe we should organize here

but we don't have the email list that he does...

They just had a revolution in Moldova- facilitated by the use of Twitter...

[Tangerine LaBamba]

2. Maybe he just wants to have a normal life now ........

Married and all that. Maybe he's just tired. He's no kid, in spite of that bad dye job. He's 62 years old and, believe me, as you get older, you just don't have that same energy.

Who's his successor?

[Fireweed247]

4. there could be something to that...

but Elizabeth is young, and Dennis is a very young 62, spunkier than any other Congressmen

That does raise a very important point though...why are our politicians mostly old guys with no energy to protect the Constitution, that don't even understand the latest technologies and what is happening in the lives of real Americans outside the beltway?


"Who's his successor?" Good Question!

[Uzybone]

5. because instead of run for office

most politically active (or inactive) prefer to sit on the sidelines.

[Fireweed247]

6. We need DUers to run for office!

We could help organize on the site here. Most people here seem to know a lot more about what is going on than those bastards in DC.

[Ghost in the Machine]

7. I think it's because people won't support term limits..

The lack of term limits is what causes the corrupt bastards, like Ted Stevens, to get entrenched in office...

Term limits would cut out 90% - 95% of the corruption going on now...


But that's just *my* opinion


Peace,

Ghost

[Fireweed247]

11. term limits would help, I agree

and you don't need to tell me about Ted Stevens yikes! The republicans up here are pushing the idea that our new Senator Mark Begich should step down now because Stevens got off on a technicality. :crazy:

[Ghost in the Machine]

22. Yeah, I've read about them wanting Begich to step down...

just goes to show just how stupid republicans are, doesn't it?

:hi:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

13. Again ..............

Is this really necessary?

There are term limits already in place.

They're called "votes." And if you don't like how your representatives are behaving, you vote against them. If the majority disagrees with you, well, that's democracy at work.

The idea of some externally-imposed "term limit" - and who decides how long those terms should be, and why, and who has that power? - is absurd. I can't believe this keeps coming up.

Check out Ted Stevens. He learned about term limits, didn't he?

[Fireweed247]

14. Ted Stevens has been in so long because people like the pork he brings home

because he has been in there so long. His 'senority' and the money that brings is what people are voting for in this backward land of Republicans for government handouts.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

15. And then they voted him out .........

which was my point, which you missed. They voted him out. His terms were finally limited.

The voters decide on term limits - no one else.

[Fireweed247]

16. He was only effective at bringing home money

and he was in too long because of it. That was my point. He wouldn't be any more effective at bringing home bacon than anyone else if there were term limits. We wouldn't have a corrupt senoirity situation.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

17. That's his job -

his role is to bring home the bacon. He did a good job of it.

That's how it's always been. Maybe it's not the best system, but it sure as hell beats anything that I've ever seen suggested.

[Fireweed247]

18. His job is to bring home bacon? I thought it was something about defending our Constitution

I guess we all look for different things in a Congressman.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

19. That, too ............

His job has many facets. I, too, took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution when I was sworn in before the various bars, but I had other duties as well.

He was a Senator, actually, and now you've learned a lot more, haven't you?

[Fireweed247]

20. I know he was a Senator!

I call them Senators(from the Senate) and Representatives(from the House) but when I talk in general about all of them, I call them Congressmen. :eyes:

(on edit: you might notice from a previous post I know he was a Senator)

[Tangerine LaBamba]

21. "Congressman" is a term reserved for members of

the House of Representatives. While your appellation is technically correct, its usage is so arcane as to be interpreted incorrectly. When you refer to members of both Houses, you would use the word "representatives" or "members of Congress."

You would never address a Senator as "Congressman Stevens," so referring to him that way in another context just blots out your message and makes you look ill-informed .......................

[tabasco]

25. Calling a senator a representative is even more incorrect.

Stop your bloviating.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

26. They're all representatives, elected, no less,

but the difference is that some are members of the House of Representatives.

Stay with the concept, and eventually - I believe in you - it will be revealed and comprehended.

Don't quit now. You have so much waiting for you in your journey towards enlightenment. I am happy for you......................

[Ghost in the Machine]

23. Sorry, but votes *do not* equal 'term limits'...

.. it's silly to even suggest that. Term limits would inspire those who really desire to do some good to act quickly and get something done.

People who come in and do some good should have no problem getting a job in the private sector once their terms are up...

Our government is *supposed* to be "of the people, by the people, for the people", is it not? After a while, politicians quit being "the people" and become simply "politicians", serving their own best interests at the peril of We, the People...


"Check out Ted Stevens. He learned about term limits, didn't he?"

:rofl: .... yeah, 40 years later... and *we* will be paying him for as long as he's alive...

[Fireweed247]

31. especially with our voting systems

n/t

[Telly Savalas]

27. So you don't think Kucinich belongs in Congress?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

8. Elizabeth is only his spouse,

without his experience and expertise. And, besides, doesn't she have her own life?

Listen, Kucinich knows that Obama's there for eight years, most likely, and that means he can settle in now to be the best Congressman he can be for his constituents, or he can retire and do something else - teach, establish some kind of training academy for people coming up.

Because, yes, that was a very pointed question I asked: who is Kucinich's successor? And the answer comes back as a hollow echo. There's no one.

A fatal flaw for the things Kucinich espoused. He still has time to remedy that.............

[Fireweed247]

9. "establish some kind of training academy"

That is a great idea. He could also do that on a website in a way, and reach more people with today's technology.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

12. In my experience, the best lawyers

were the ones who made sure, as my greatest teacher told me, "if I drop dead in the middle of examining a witness, my first chair will step over my body and continue the examination."

I did it, and passed the lesson along. Stand-alone heroes who don't leave a replacement aren't very heroic, as I see it.............

[Occam Bandage]

10. DK grandstanding and then not backing up his talk with results?

I'm surprised. Really, I am.

[Two Americas]

24. so disorganized

This drove many of us to distraction in the last two campaigns - things were always so disorganized in the Kucinich camp.

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. What does that say about how he would perform as President?

If he can't run an organized presidential campaign, what makes people think that he could run the executive branch of the government?

[MilesColtrane]

28. He was ready to set up and fund a new site, but...

...he's a little short.

Ba-Ba-Boom!!

But, seriously folks....

[Truth2Tell]

29. You could email him and ask him.

:shrug:

Just a crazy idea.

[Fireweed247]

30. maybe i'll try that

do you have his email address?

[Truth2Tell]

33. this is all I have

http://kucinich.house.gov/Contact/Starter.htm

You might try PMing DUer davidswanson