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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:10 AM
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Why Mr. Obama needs to drop the hammer on Texas Governor Perry
Mr. Perry ,the Governor of Texas has said (pointedly suggested) that Texans will want to secede from the United States.This at a rally yesterday.It is important in this to note...A LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED.
A regional governmental leader has suggested and encouraged secession.This is treasonous.This is not some amusing fellow spouting nonsense at a tea bag rally,this is serious.This is,again,a state governor advocating secession.
The DHS needs to focus on this speech,this advocacy of secession.Stop the slandering of returning veterans and focus on a real problem.You have a rogue governor.
I am sure that the good people of Texas do not support what Mr. Perry has said and encouraged.I am sure Mr. Obama has the good sense to recognize and the will to prosecute treason advocated by a state governor.
Of all the things I have read and seen today,the tea rallies,the DHS political stupidity regarding veterans,this governors statements are the most dangerous.This stuff needs to be put down hard.
Again,my regards and respect to the good people of Texas,fellow Americans all.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:26 AM
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1. Yes, it's time, The President, his staff and any
Congressional players get to it! Let's work out the details of exactly how and when texas will secede! Hopefully this is just the beginning and the US can divide into three or more countries. I'm sick of these RW fundies, they are about 30% of the population so give them about 30% of the land mass and let them go.
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:28 AM
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2. We let nobody go.No one.It was settled some time ago
It is a fighting issue.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:44 AM
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12. Now that's, F R E E D O M !!!! eom
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:43 AM
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3. Perry seems to be following in the footsteps of Jefferson Davis.
From a legal standpoint, his remarks that "... the people of Texas will want to secede.." may have kept him out of jeopardy. Yet, his intentions were to support such action.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:45 AM
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4. This is dangerous nonsense. The majority of Texans would not
vote to secede. Perry needs to STFU immediately. He is "playing with fire" for no good reason.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:56 AM
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5. They can't secede. They can divide Texas up into several separate states
....but they can't secede.

I think someone needs to point out (on national TV) the hypocrisy between Governor Goodhair's rhetoric and reality (as someone has already done here at the DU).

He had no problems asking for federal funds for border issues and hurricane cleanup. But now, all of a sudden, the federal government is overbearing.

GMAFB. He needs to be called out, and in dramatic fashion.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:57 AM
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6. Fool. That's what they HOPE Obama does. Thankfully he's not that stupid.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:58 AM
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7. Gov. Goodhair is so stupid, he makes GWB look smart.
And that takes real effort.
Back in 2000 I was saying that TX got double whammied, we got shrub as pres. and Goodhair as gov.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:00 AM
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8. from "pointedly suggested" to "A LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED"
Could we be any more dramatic?

;)
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:11 AM
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9. Obama has a difficult choice
If he reacts to Perry's nonsense, he takes Perry far more seriously than he deserves to be,
and risks giving life's blood to all the gun-crazed militias out there who chant "They're
coming to take me away ha ha ho ho hee hee" every morning instead of the Pledge of Allegiance.

On the other hand, if Perry's grandstanding gains any traction, things could get out of hand
to an extent Perry never intended (after all, this is free attention at a time when he has a
serious primary challenge for his re-nomination as Republican Party candidate for governor).

Texans are a diverse bunch, but the vast majority of us have no interest whatsoever in
secession, and I'm pretty sure both Obama and Perry know that. Perry can dare Obama to
take action against him, and Obama can dare Perry to act sane, but I don't see either
happening in the immediate future.
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HubertHeaver Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:17 AM
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10. Governor Perry wants to seceed? The Air Force should take immediate steps
to move Air Force basic training out of Texas. This is a vulnerability to U. S. security that must be addressed.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:26 AM
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11. We Democrats like to call him "President Obama."
Why in the world would you make the following statement:

"The DHS needs to focus on this speech,this advocacy of secession.Stop the slandering of returning veterans and focus on a real problem.You have a rogue governor."

It's a big mistake to become like the rightwingers, who think speech giving and treason are the same thing. How did you learn to consider speech treason?
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:30 PM
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13. This is not the free speech of a private individual
This is the inflammatory seditious speech of a sitting governor.When was the last time a governor,suggested that his state should secede?
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:47 PM
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14. post _the_ quote or cut the drama
Really, cut the crap, my cat knows that no state has the legal ability to secede so enough with the dramatics.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 03:38 AM
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16. Make your case with the facts, if you can.
You see, merely alleging that something is seditious is not sufficient. That works for the simple minded, but we're not simple minded. Make your case by establishing what Treason is, then show from Perry's statements that they are treasonous.

I don't believe you have good intentions. I don't believe you give a damn what was said.

I can condemn Perry as an idiot, as a rightwing simpleton, as a sniveling little Republican with no sense or no backbone - in other words, the typical Republican governor - but I don't have to accuse him of sedition or treason because he's talking about secession. ACTION is what we're looking for, not running off at the mouth, which is what mouth-breathing Republicans often do.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:53 PM
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15. The speech isn't treason, but secession would be. n/t
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