John Zeigler arrested at Katie Couric Award

[ThirdWorldJohn]

Source: Youtube Video

Sara Palins best friend, John Zeigler was arrested today at the USC award ceremony where Katie Couric was being awarded the Walter Cronkite journalist award. I find this hilarious.

Read more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYY0ARSF1XM

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Sara Palins best friend, John Zeigler was arrested today at the USC award ceremony where Katie Couric was being awarded the Walter Cronkite journalist award. I find this hilarious.

[Why Syzygy]

1. What for? nt

[goclark]

2. The nuts are jumping out of the candy bars nt

[countingbluecars]

He sounds drunk. n/t

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[ColbertWatcher]

32. I agree. He looked VERY drunk. n/t

[cosmicone]

3. hahahahahaah That was precious n/t

[geckosfeet]

4. He was asked to leave by law enforcement. He didn't leave. He was removed.

I don't see anything so remarkable about this. A typical RW asshole who thinks he is above the laws made for the little people.

In general I don't like gestapo tactics - but this was more like an elderly uncle who was asking him to leave.

[truthisfreedom]

5. He was obviously hassling people with questions they didn't want to answer, and when asked to stop

he didn't do it.

He wasn't invited, and he was on private property.

[FudaFuda]

27. That should always be the test for when to kick journalists out

whenever one starts asking questions people don't want to answer, handcuff that reporter and drag them away. :sarcasm:

I don't like John Ziegler's yellow journalism (which unfortunately has broken out on both sides of the fence and killed objective reporting), but face it if he'd been playing kissass reporter and fluffing everyone with "How awesome is Katie?!?" kind of questions, they'd have answered all his questions and fed him to boot. But journalism isn't supposed to be about kissing ass - in fact quite the opposite. Allowing this kind of thing to be done to the press isn't good, whether you like the reporter or not.

[mod mom]

7. Was he drunk? He keeps laughing

[southernyankeebelle]

8. WOW, NOW HE KNOWS HOW THE LEFT FEELS 8 YRS

UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. IT COULDN'T OF HAPPEN TO A NICER GUY. NOW AM NOT A KATIE FAN BUT I MUST SAY THAT SHE GAVE PALIN A FAR INVIEW. ZIELGER IS A FOOL.

[pacalo]

9. I'm more appalled that Katie Couric got an award named after Walter Cronkite.

:wow:

[Submariner]

16. I feel bad for Walter

No one since has measured up, so the poor guy has one of those "best of the bunch" picks getting an award in his name. If Katie had any class she would reject it on the grounds she is not worthy. This is more stunning than the drama queen in the video.

[pacalo]

26. Said perfectly -- thanks, sub.

:hi:

[Lint Head]

10. As long as he is on public property he can do what ever he likes.

He was on private property.
:dem:

[byronius]

11. The nut who posted the video sees this as evidence of the coming left-wing purge.

(If only)

[triguy46]

12. Public universities, though 'open' can control access...

plenty of legal support for that. They can also control the place, time and nature (e.g. loud music during classes), though not content. Most universities will have a policy stating the process in which you can take advantage of this. Don't shoot me over 'free speech', read the law. In this case, they have every right to get this dickhead off campus.

[RandomThoughts]

13. There is a dicotomy, or even more sides to this.

It is actually interesting.

First to state my biases, I do not support Cronkite, although he did some good things in life, some of the things he did were beyond my ability to support, knowing all are both good and bad, I understand he is not perfect, nor completely bad, but my choice is not to support him.

However the Couric interview is in a different place then my thoughts on Walter Cronkite, however it spins back around when she gets an award from his institute, depending on what she thinks the award means.

But the most interesting thing, is the guy was acting in his right of civil disobediance to advocate for his point of view. Being on private property he was escorted off the property. However during Bush years many on the left had similar instances, although many of them were met with tasers. The officers in this case seemed to do mostly a good job.

It comes down to what rights do a private organization have to consider who can or can not be on there property, and I believe he was given the ability to conduct his interview/protest on a public street before being escorted away. But the intent of civil disobedience is also to be noticed, so moving onto private property and refusing to leave makes sense. He also did not get angry, nor fight when escorted, which also fits civil disobedience. Refusing to cooperate, and being carried away for arrest is common in civil disobedience.

The police conduct seemed professional, however the use of pain to get a person to do something, is something I personally disagree with, it happened to the left also. The alternative would been to get two more officers and carry him away,(like done in protests over the years) this would include the arresting of him, which would be acceptable to his role of civil disobedience.

All and all, I find it an interesting clip.

[cindyfaulkner]

14. You guys do know

he was ran out of the Louisville, KY media market (worked at a radio station cannot remember which one) because a broadcaster at WDRB tv sued him for sexual harassment.

[Lars39]

17. Oh, my! Welcome, to DU, cindyfaulkner!

:toast:

[cindyfaulkner]

18. Alright here's the link i knew i could find it

but what the article doesn't say is that during the ask john anything segment he made nasty remarks about the lady and she sued. Her name was Darci something or other. http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/author/jziegler/

[Lars39]

19. Thanks for the background!

:hi:

[noamnety]

25. Wow - He is a jerk.

I read this (a separate incident): "He then went back into TV sportscasting by taking a job at the Fox affiliate in Raleigh, North Carolina. Ziegler's irreverent brand of humor didn't go over too well with the TV news management there, however, and was fired in for making a rather tame joke about O.J. Simpson's lack of innocence."

and thought hmmmm, I'd put money on the "rather tame joke" being racist.

then I found this: "And here is an excerpt from the David Foster Wallace essay (Wallace sort of hammers Ziegler in the essay over Ziegler's obsession with OJ Simpson and his determined and frequent use of the n-word on the many radio shows he's been fired from)"

The paragraph following it is incredibly repulsive - not posting it here, n-word warning, stupid racist ass warning:

http://www.metafilter.com/76687/John-Ziegler-vs-Nate-Silver

[ThirdWorldJohn]

15. Another viedeo showing earlier display of being a giant A-Hole

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/320303.html

[macebowman]

20. I find this highly disturbing

First, Ziegler was not on private property. Last I checked, the University of Southern California was a public institution.

Second, they were lots of people in the area, walking by--a public payphone prominently placed. It even had a public phonebook hanging from it. I mean like, WOW--did I hit a timewarp. Around here you rarely see a phonebooth, and if you do--well they sure ain't no phonebook left. You seen the price of toilet paper?

Third, rent a cops. Rent a cops took handcuffs and illegally detained him. I was working in an all night truckstop, alone. Dude shoplifted me. I grabbed him, had a little row, and whooped out some handcuffs and locked him to a pole, called the cops. So, they come picked him up--and then threatened to write me up for illegally detaining him. Rent a cops no better than me.

So then a real cop shows up. Except, he ain't a real cop. He a chickenpoop cop. He works for the public, but he don't want his face on camera. Brown shirts don't like to be filmed.

So, same day--Trancedo is across the country. He trying to speak at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. He gets shouted off the stage. I get an email from the president of the University this morning--and I graduated more than twenty years ago. I get an email chewing me out and I wasn't even there. Seems the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill has a very different understanding of the Freedom of Speech than the University of Southern California.

[Brother Buzz]

21. USC has always been private

[macebowman]

23. My bad

I thought they were part of the University of California system. Oh well--that explains everything. Private places can hire private brownshirts to do whatever they want. And, with the right amount of "pull", get public police officiers to do whatever they wish. Heck, next time maybe they will just hire Blackwater.

[Brother Buzz]

24. USC likes to employ their alma marta for security

OJ was on their short list and eminently qualified for the position, but he's got a gig that had a no cut contract clause so couldn't take the job. You know what I mean, Vern?

[Celebration]

22. Sorry, USC is a PRIVATE university n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

29. And even more disturbing

is you're just full of news from the propaganda party!

Welcome, but maybe not.

[Codeine]

33. Security guards can legally detain people.

Security at our store does it all the time.

[No Elephants]

34. Nowhere near as bad as Bush having people arrested for showing up at his fake town meetings with

INVITATIONS, but an anti-Bush T shirt (no profanity). That was during a Presidential campaign. Did you find that "very disturbing" too?

BTW, the Tancredo/Chapel Hill situation is nowhere near comparable. There, a protestor threw something through a window almost as soon as Tancredo started speaking, causing him to leave and the event to be shut down. Here, Ziegler was the disrupter. There is no First Amendment right to disrupt an award show just cause Katy Couric asked your friend a couple of perfectly legitimate questions and your friend befouled herself. When "morans" run for VP, that's just the risk they take.

You know this board is only for Democrats, right?

[Brother Buzz]

35. Two attendees with tickets were tossed from a Texas town meeting after being seated...

Bush campaign boys noticed their bumper sticker. The dicks even misrepresented themselves as Secret Service when they confronted the Commie liberal pinko infiltrators. Big mistake.

The two were respected and known activists who made a big stink and didn't let it slide, especially after Secret Service denied any involvement in the event. Campaign boys ultimately apologized.

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. What an utter douchebag! "Journalism" doesn't give license to disrupt

not to mention it's pretty obvious he needed some liquid courage. Unfortunately, the guy got exactly what he WANTED, which was film he can show to the faithful so they can get all riled up and more angry.

He's certainly 'right' about "this is America now", though. Douchebags like him are among us stirring up shit wherever they can find it so they can claim they are a victim.

[grantcart]

30. Zeigler has a long history of legal problems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ziegler_(talk_show_host)

He is no long an employed journalist having turned his rant on fellow right wing nuts at KFI, he was fired.

He then sought to expose KFI and is now persona non grata even amongst the far right wing.

[MadBadger]

31. If he was protesting her getting any award with Walter Cronkite in the title...I agree.