"I vas choost vollowing orters"

[Stinky The Clown]

We were much more cognizant of the moral failings of that argument in 1945 and 1946 than we are now.

[seemslikeadream]

1. "WE ARE ALL TORTURERS NOW."

[Bluebear]

2. The USA tortures captives.

I wouldn't have thought I would ever know that truth.

[FrenchieCat]

3. I think we should prosecute all of those who dropped bombs on Iraq!

All of them! After all, this is an illegal war!

And if the Right Wing ever get their way and Abortion is made illegal,
I think we should go back and prosecute all of the doctors who performed abortions.
After all, they swore an oath.....

As well, if the Death Penalty is overturned, we should go back and prosecute all who pulled the switch.

[Bluebear]

4. Oh my God. nt

[Solly Mack]

5. To include those who ordered the bombs dropped, of course

[FrenchieCat]

7. Iraq air raids hit mostly women and children

Source: Independent UK

Iraq air raids hit mostly women and children
Report urges review of military strategy when targeting urban areas

By Kim Sengupta, Defence correspondent
Thursday, 16 April 2009

Air strikes and artillery barrages have taken a heavy toll among the most vulnerable of the Iraqi people, with children and women forming a disproportionate number of the dead. Analysis carried out for the research group Iraq Body Count (IBC) found that 39 per cent of those killed in air raids by the US-led coalition were children and 46 per cent were women. Fatalities caused by mortars, used by American and Iraqi government forces as well as insurgents, were 42 per cent children and 44 per cent women.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5472360

[Solly Mack]

8. Yes, I read that earlier. But you are including the Commanders

who gave the orders as well, yes? ALL of the commanders?

[FrenchieCat]

14. What I'm saying is that "I was following orders" if we are to believe can't ever be uttered.....

Then we better start the prosecutions now, because it will last quite some time, and take down hundreds.

After that, we will all feel better.

Perhaps we should have had a revolution and stopped it before it began. Perhaps we the people didn't do enough. After all, Abru Graib was found out about in April of 2004...and what happened in 2004? George Bush was re-elected.



As revealed by the 2004 Taguba Report, a criminal investigation by the US Army Criminal Investigation Command had already been underway since 2003 where many soldiers of the 320th Military Police Battalion had been charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice with prisoner abuse. In 2004 articles describing the abuse, including pictures showing military personnel abusing prisoners, came to public attention, when a 60 Minutes II news report (April 28) and an article by Seymour M. Hersh in The New Yorker magazine (posted online on April 30 and published days later in the May 10 issue) reported the story.<4> Janis Karpinski, the commander of Abu Ghraib, demoted for her lack of oversight regarding the abuse, estimated later that 90% of detainees in the prison were innocent.<5>

A hooded and wired Iraqi prisoner, believed to be Satar Jabar, who reportedly was told that he would be electrocuted if he fell off the box
Lynndie England and Charles Graner posing with prisoners ordered to form a human pyramidThe United States Department of Defense removed seventeen soldiers and officers from duty, and seven soldiers were charged with dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault and battery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

[Stinky The Clown]

15. That was then

This is now

The evidence of some of it is out there.

On edit ..... do you recall Adolf Eichmann? He was just following orders, too.

[Solly Mack]

16. Oh, I understood what you were trying to say

[Stinky The Clown]

6. I also think we should steal pictures from private web sites and post them to make stupid points.

Particularly real pictures of real people and identify them just to meet some stupid need to make some stupid point.

Are you approving of criminals going unpunished?

Now back to the point ..... what was wrong with this OP?

You can't resist, can you. Its like catnip for you, isn't it?

[FrenchieCat]

9. I'm just following through on your logic....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3834007&mesg_id=3834007

[Bluebear]

11. ....

[Stinky The Clown]

13. yup

[FrenchieCat]

17. They called Gen. Wes Clark a War Criminal because he ordered the bombing

of a Television Stations in Serbia. Where were you?

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/nato1.html

[Stinky The Clown]

19. .

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HyyDHyAwI6k/SLiPFEsTlLI/AAAAAAAACe8/c8H6hCF98gM/s400/hail+mary.gif

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

10. So we should arrest Obama for continuing offensive combat operations then right?

[Bluebear]

12. ---

:spray:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

18. Somewhere in Hell,

Adolf Eichemann is chortling, deilghted that his favorite line is now America's mantra...................

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Not just a mantra, but enrobed in the nobility of historical significance, I fear.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. I haff bin ortered to bed. I vill return in za morning to vollow up