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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:41 AM
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An entire class of CIA operatives get blanket immunity while people like myself, Thomas Tamm and
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 02:49 AM by seemslikeadream
An entire class of CIA operatives get blanket immunity while people like myself, Thomas Tamm and others who exposed Bush illegality were criminally investigated and are still suffering the fallout.


The Prosecution Conundrum: Torture Detailed, "Nuremberg Defense" Revived & Blanket CIA Immunity
by Jesselyn Radack

Fri Apr 17, 2009 at 05:29:04 AM PDT


Yesterday, the torture condundrum was spelled out in vivid detail: Spain's Attorney General said prosecutors are recommending against opening an investigation into whether the top-level "Bush Six" sanctioned torture because they were not present when the alleged torture took place. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama said that the CIA officials carrying out torture policies crafted and approved by the Justice Department will not be prosecuted.

Crystal eyes note the absurdity: Absolved because you were ordered to torture by those who are absolved because they were not there.

A brilliant piece of twisted dark logic that renders justice not only blind but impotent.

An entire class of CIA operatives get blanket immunity while people like myself, Thomas Tamm and others who exposed Bush illegality were criminally investigated and are still suffering the fallout.
No one is accountable. Everyone's hands are still dirty.

Jesselyn Radack's diary :: ::




Domestic Surveillance Panel (1/6) - 2009 National Whistleblower Assembly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tFCrsxiAlc


This one-hour panel discussion served as the centerpiece event of the 2009 National Whistleblower Assembly. The presentation, entitled Domestic Surveillance: The Next Steps, focused on privacy rights, featuring key whistleblowers and leaders who have challenged warrantless wiretapping scandal since 2005 when it was first exposed.

Moderated by Government Accountability Project Homeland Security Director (and Justice Department whistleblower) Jesselyn Radack, the panel will touched on: Then-current FISA provisions; lawsuits against the Justice Department regarding Office of Legal Counsel memos justifying the use of domestic surveillance; the Obama administrations public stance on the matter; and what interested citizens, groups and politicians can do to ensure privacy rights. Panelists included:

Thomas Tamm, a former Department of Justice attorney whose whistleblowing disclosure has revealed the full scope of surveillance;

Marc Rotenberg, Executive Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, and

Michael MacLeod-Ball, Chief Legislative and Policy Counsel for the ACLU.

This panel was organized by the Government Accountability Project. For more information, visit www.whistleblower.org



GAP's Jesselyn Radack on 1600 Penn. Avenue
Last night, GAP Homeland Security Director Jesselyn Radack was a guest on the MSNBC program 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, discussing both the internal ethics investigation at the Justice Department regarding the infamous “torture memos” the Bush administration used to justify enhanced interrogation techniques, and the current state of legislation that would upgrade federal worker whistleblower protections. \


1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 090219 Radack Interview Lead In
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WCNUHk5tM
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue 090219 Radack Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqzHWG5vtQ
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:44 AM
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1. Marking for the a.m. Everyone seems to be getting the Spain thing wrong, though.
The court is a go. The Spanish AG tried to nix it as a favor to Obama. The court hasn't done that, though.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:52 AM
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2. The OP makes a good point. Lesser crimes are being vigorously
prosecuted. People who committed far less serious crimes are serving felony sentences all over the country. This is injustice at its most obvious.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:27 AM
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4. The surviving pirate is being brought here to stand trial in our courts.
And it hit me that he wasn't uniformed and didn't represent any nation and that he will be given swift justice for his part in the attack while innocent men sit and rot at Guantanamo and are refused their day in our courts.

Injustice most obvious indeed.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 08:14 AM
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6. Two words: Sybil Edmonds. nt
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:04 AM
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7. Sibel.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 11:08 AM
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9. Sibel.
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 11:09 AM by seemslikeadream
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 03:24 AM
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3. Yup. Too many Clintonites in this administration. (nt)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:29 AM
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5. Interview with Thomas Tamm

http://www.alternet.org/rights/137260/%22a_ton_more_people_were_wiretapped_than_we%27ve_been_led_to_believe%22%3A_fbi_whistleblower_thomas_tamm/

LS: Even in the past few months we've discovered that the scope of the wiretapping was even broader than what we'd already learned and that journalists were targeted. Do you have any particular reasons to believe that we're going to discover these things?

TT: It's just an opinion, really, it's kind of my gut feeling, kind of like when I figured out that they were doing something illegally -- it was based on a lot of years of experience.

But when you read about Karl Rove saying that he had lists of Republicans who were not that supportive, and when you read about John Bolton, who was the ambassador to the United Nations -- there were reports that he was kind of listening in on, or had amazing knowledge, let's say, of what some of the envoys who were going around the world were thinking …


had this mentality that what they were doing, no matter whether it was against the law -- that the ends justified the means. They were saving the world, they were the only ones that were capable of doing that.

And I think when you have that mentality, you can justify doing almost anything. And you know, with data mining, if we collect everything, really it means we analyze nothing. They really have to focus on people that may harm the country, as opposed to journalists and people they don't like.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:57 AM
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8. Thanks eridani
:hi:
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