Why do you think Seymour Hersh hasn't been invited on any TV shows to discuss torture recently?

[NNN0LHI]

http://boingboing.net/2004/07/15/hersh-children-raped.html

Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos

Posted by Xeni Jardin, July 15, 2004 12:22 PM | permalink
From Daily Kos' partial transcript of a video (link to REAL stream) of Seymour Hersh speaking at an ACLU event. He says the US government has videotapes of children being raped at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."

Link (via Warren). There's also a piece worth reading in this week's Newsweek about new allegations of rape and sexual torture at Abu Ghraib. Feature includes details on the identities of the Iraqi prisoners shown in those widely-circulated photographs -- including Satar Jabar (charged with carjacking, not terrorism), whose iconic hooded figure with wires attached is derisively described by many Iraqis as the "Statue of Liberty." Link
Update: Geraldine Sealey at Salon on Hersh's remarks:

After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse. (...)

[SmileyRose]

1. He'll tell the truth.

the media will talk around it, over it, under it etc - but to put it in point blank terms that people understand is criminal won't happen with the corporate media. As much as I love some of the talking heads, Olbermann, Maddow, Stewart, Colbert etc - there's a point they won't be permitted to go beyond. The predator class will not allow the American people to be informed well enough to descend on BushCo's private homes, drag them into the street and administer justice.

[RandomThoughts]

2. Senator Whitehouse was

also working on prosecutions, I have not heard much from him recently either.

[seemslikeadream]

4. Oh yes he has, I'll grab the link for ya

here's one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=298603

[laststeamtrain]

3. Because he will tell inconvenient truths. n/t.

[leftstreet]

5. "the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has"

America! Fuck Yeah!

:puke: :cry:

[spanone]

6. because our media is owned by corporate interests in direct conflict with ours?

[bluesmail]

7. All of the above. eom

[BelgianMadCow]

8. I vividly remember his articles about the torture POLICY

among other things, that it was based on a book describing the best ways to humiliate muslims.
Also, the guy that "did a great job" on Guantanamo was then dispatched to Abu Ghraib to do the same thing, except better, and using corporations accountable to no-one - as per Bush memo stating all contractors were exempt of legal responsability in Iraq.

Wish I had the links handy but I don't.

[NNN0LHI]

9. Major General Jeffery Miller was his name

That is a name none of us should ever forget.

Don

[BelgianMadCow]

11. wow - a DU thread about him is the 2nd google hit for "hersh jeffrey miller"

goes to show you Du is good, unfortunetely you also see ZERO coverage in the corporate media.

Thanks for the reminder! Here's the DU thread (and the main Miller post)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1572927&mesg_id=1573033

And since a Democracy Now interview seems to be the main source:
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/5/10/seymour_hersh_knowledge_of_prisoner_abuse

Major General Jeffrey Miller who was at that time running the prison in Guantanamo, which is strictly an interrogation facility. And the timeline is this, that by last fall, the American authorities were talking publicly, you know, the insurgency was going and they were talking publicly about 5,000 or so members of the insurgencies, and there’s a tremendous pressure about who are the insurgents, let’s find them and let’s get them. And so, what happened is that—the best guess you have is by late fall, there were as many as 40,000 detainees. They’re not like the people that were taken out of Afghanistan and sent to Guantanamo. Overwhelmingly, 60 or more percentage of them are civilians, people that have nothing—they were just picked up randomly. There’s not much intelligence they get out of them. And anyway there is a separate prison for the hard cases; that we’re not talking about. They weren’t at Abu Ghraib. They were at other places. And so what you were doing is you were trying to find the 5,000 magic guys, and Miller recommended, do so, that you put the military intelligence people last fall in charge of the prisons.

5000 potential - 40 k detainees. Nice going Cheney Dick...
One of Hersh's articles had more about the policy - gonna try and find it.

2004 people...

[Senator]

10. K&R