Until the average "Christian" Republican gets incensed over torture

[Bandit]

Nothing will or can be done. A Partisan witch hunt will not be allowed and as long as it is only Democrats and Liberals that find torture offensive nothing is going to go forth. Why the average family that goes to church every Sunday and says they embody "family values" seems okay with the USA torturing people is something that has bothered me for quite some time. I can't figure out whether they just are not being told or really don't really care. I guess torture is just one of those Republican "family values". Who knew???:shrug:

[Ilsa]

1. Well, you know, torture was "good enough" for Jesus, so why shouldn't

others have to endure it. And they don't get the irony of how this turns the tortured into martyrs and creates terrorism.

[Lars39]

2. Why should they?

The same average "Christian" Republican who was watching the Passion of the Christ?

[Bill McBlueState]

3. If we could just get all the Christian Democrats on board

that would be a good start.

[sandnsea]

4. If somebody kidnapped my child

and I knew it for a fact, I'd be hard pressed to say I wouldn't pull out fingernails or waterboard or bring in a crate of bugs to get my child back.

That's where people are coming from on the issue. Which isn't to say you aren't supposed to put your intellect over your emotions when creating policy and law. That's where the disconnect always comes into play, whether it's capital punishment or yeehaw gun policy or torture.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. And 24 has helped to spread this meme, that it works

when it does not

Torture is a tool of terror for the state, period

[sandnsea]

13. Exactly

That's why you're supposed to put your intellect over emotional appeal. Emotional appeal is usually wrong. Unfortunately, we have an enormous number of people who don't even know there's a difference, and wouldn't care even if you explained it to them.

[vadawg]

11. this is kinda my take as well, i sure as hell would use any means to protect my family

so i understand using any means to protect your collective family ie the USA, so all i know is if there was a jury, i shouldnt be on it.

[NNN0LHI]

15. Yes, but would you go rape the children of the person who kidnapped your child?

Even if you thought it might get your child back?

Would you do it?

Don

[sandnsea]

16. Please reread the post

and then answer that question yourself. I clearly gave the answer, if people choose to react to the words instead of the poster.

[Winterblues]

17. It is funny how on most issues the Right is clear cut black and white, good vs evil

us vs them, our way or the highway, and yet on some issues they are very much into the grey zone. It always seems the issues they are grey on are the issues we are clear cut and dried on. Do we torture or don't we?

[maseman]

18. You are exactly right

I think the torture deal goes like this.

1. It is out of site...out of mind.
2. It makes regular people somehow feel a little safer.
3. They remember 9-11 and somehow justify toture as a payback.
4. They really have no idea the horror involved in it.

[JohnnyLib2]

5. yeah, but--

that's a huge hunk of U.S. population. Sigh...

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. And that is why we need to keep talking about it, and let Obama contuinue

to declassify torture memos so the general public will be MADE aware, and they will THEN demand action.
Pushing for immediate prosecution, without laying the groundwork, will result only in losing the Democratic majority next year, which will help NOBODY.

[MadHound]

7. First of all, we need to get average Democrats incensed over torture

Hell, just look around here, too many people are willing to give up on the pursuit of justice in these cases simply because a Democrat in the White House is saying that we shouldn't pursue justice. Sorry, but no pursuing these cases simply means that we'll have torture in the future.

[southernyankeebelle]

8. OH DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT THEY DO

CARE. IF THIS HAD BEEN OBAMA DOING THE TORTURING WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT NON-STOP, BELIEVE ME. THEY WILL LET ANYTHING REPUBLICANS DO SLIDE. YET THE DEMOCRATICS TRULY ARE UPSET ABOUT IT NO MATTER WHO HAS DONE IT IN OFFICE.

[liberalmuse]

9. I know of a Christian Republican who turned because of torture.

My mom. Unfortunately, she is the only one currently in her church who voted for President Obama. Not very encouraging, but it did take torture to wake her up, and she's been waking up to all the wrongs committed by her former party ever since. A lot of Christians don't have a problem with their god 'dashing infants heads against rocks', so you think they're going to have a problem when people they've demonized, 'the bad guys', are tortured?

[DCKit]

12. The Hypocrisy of the Amur'kin Xians on Full Display.

They'll have to be embarrassed into doing the Christian thing on this (and many other) issues.

[kentuck]

14. I think you are onto something...

We cannot pressure an investigation by ourselves. We need help.