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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:26 PM
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John Yoo Defends Torture at OC Debate 4/21/9

Bush lawyer defends waterboarding in local debate
John Yoo, whose memos justified controversial interrogation tactics, defends the practices during a Chapman University debate.
By MARTIN WISCKOL
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER

ORANGE – John Yoo, a former Bush administration lawyer whose memos justified coercive interrogation tactics including waterboarding, said at a debate today that the controversial tactics were appropriate in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

"Three thousand of our fellow citizens had been killed in a deliberate attack by a foreign enemy," he told an audience of several hundred at Chapman University. "That forced us in the government to have to consider measures to gain information using presidential constitutional provisions to protect the country from further attack."
Yoo worked in the White House's Office of Legal Counsel and was among those who wrote the legal memos that provide the CIA with guidelines for interrogation.
Waterboarding, a tactic that simulates drowning, has been condemned by Atty. Gen Eric Holder as torture and, along with other aggressive interrogation techniques, has been banned by President Obama.
Opponents of the practices on hand at today's debate including four people with black hoods reminiscent of those worn by prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and catcallers who interrupted Yoo three times.

But the principal opponents at the debate – Chapman law professors Katherine Darmer and Lawrence Rosenthal – attacked the coercive interrogation techniques from a legal standpoint.
"Prior to the War on Terror, we took the position that waterboarding was torture and prosecuted it as such," Darmer said of the interrogation method.

Darmer and Rosenthal also challenged the effectiveness of the technique – particularly in light of CIA memos recently released that reported that waterboarding was used 183 times in one month against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described planner of the Sept. 11 attacks, and 83 times in one month against Abu Zubaydah, a Qaeda operative.
"How effective is a tactic you have to use 266 times?" said Darmer. "We are lawyers. Our job is to follow the law. Torture is illegal and it's also wrong."

(snip)

When Yoo first came to the podium to speak today, he was greeted with yells of "war criminal" and "He doesn't belong in the university – he belongs in jail." Yoo responded with a slight smile.
"Maybe you all should conduct the debate," he said. "I'll write questions on cards and hand them in."

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/interrogation-yoo-darmer-2371038-waterboarding-coercive
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:27 PM
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1. K&R
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:35 PM
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2. He's still a smug little prick on the outside...
but I'd almost torture him just to find out what he really thinks his chances are.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 10:36 PM
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3. "Maybe you all should conduct the debate"?
No, I think maybe the audience should have conducted a little experiment on this smarmy ass son of a bitch. Let's see if Mr. Yoo would tolerate a little of his policy.

He is the worst example of a war criminal, one who thumbs his nose in public and pretends he's untouchable.

Somebody get ready to indict this guy, please.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:06 AM
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6. SMUG SLIMEBALL. Worst of the worst. Good post.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:04 AM
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4. FUCK YOO
:slimeball: :evilfrown:
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:26 PM
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11. Good one, om!
Now, let's say it like a sports announcer would...

FUUUUUUCCCCKK YOOOOOOOOO!

(wouldn't it be great the next time he steps in front of a podium to have a chorus of people chanting that?)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:05 AM
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5. Psychopath.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:43 AM
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7. So they should have water boarded Timothy McVeigh and his
cohorts because of their attack in Oklahoma City.

No; torture is reserved for racist purposes.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:58 AM
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8. John Yoo - a bottom-feeder in the human gene pool
:puke:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:42 PM
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13. he's never heard of Youngstown v. Ohio
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:36 AM
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9. presidential constitutional provisions - I had to Google this
and what did I find but one his own memos, entitled:

"The President's Constitutional Authority To Conduct Military Operations Against Terrorists & Nations Supporting Them"
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/warpowers925.htm

So, in other words Yoo defended himself in the Chapman debate by citing his own DOJ memo.

What an arrogant POS!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:48 AM
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10. John Yoo's webpage at Boalt says "Between college and law school, he worked as a newspaper reporter"
Does anybody know if he was working for The Washington Times?
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:32 PM
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12. He's a stupid fuck who was used big time.
A dispensable fool.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:44 PM
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14. he is so wrong. 100% wrong. this took us to war where a hell of a lot more than 3000 died
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 10:45 PM by spanone
hundreds of thousands that did NOTHING TO US ON 911

WHO THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE?????

HOW DID THEY EVER COME TO POWER????
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