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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:40 AM
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wow..check out rawstory.com report from the armed services committee was just released
report by the Senate Armed Services Committee released Tuesday night says that torture techniques used at Abu Ghraib prison and approved by officials in the George W. Bush administration were applied only after soliciting a “wish list” from interrogators.

President George W. Bush made a written determination that Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, which would have afforded minimum standards for humane treatment, did not apply to al Qaeda or Taliban detainees. This act, the committee found, cleared the way for a new interrogation program to be developed in-part based on “Chinese communist” tactics used against Americans during the Korean War, mainly to elicit false confessions for propaganda purposes.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:43 AM
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1. dangit!!!! I was just putting in the links in my post
You're 2 minutes ahead of me. lol!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:03 AM
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2. .
:kick:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:06 AM
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3. Looks like we'll hate them even MORE, as time goes on.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 01:11 AM
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4. Newsweek has it:
'When the U.S. military began sending terror suspects to Guantanamo in 2002, President Bush proclaimed that it was unwavering U.S. policy that they would be treated "humanely." But according to a report made available to NEWSWEEK and other organizations, internal Defense Department memos show that U.S. interrogators quickly strayed from that approach, devising elaborate plans to break down the resistance of two high-value detainees by stripping them and forcing them "to bark and perform dog tricks." These techniques were derived in part from classified U.S. military training slides that recommended subjecting detainees to "religious disgrace" and a process of "degradation" that included addressing them as though they were "an animal," the memos show.

The memos, which relate to the interrogations of Mohammed al Khatani and Mohammedou Wali Slahi, are contained in a newly declassified Senate Armed Services Committee report to be released Wednesday by its chairman, Democratic Sen. Carl Levin. While the basic outlines of these interrogations were previously known, the report provides new details and will likely add fresh momentum to calls for a "truth commission" or similar Justice Department investigation of U.S. interrogation practices—both of which President Obama suggested for the first time Tuesday that he was willing to support.'

http://www.newsweek.com/id/194846

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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:06 AM
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5. So let me get this straight...
The CIA was torturing and then, trying to cover their ass, they shopped around their torture techniques through the Bush admin who found some lawyers willing to cover their asses.

I reject a "truth commission". We've gone beyond the pale. It is time to throw the mother fuckers in jail.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 05:34 AM
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6. "to elicit false confessions for propaganda purposes."
Torture: The best way to get a patsy to tell you what you want to hear.

How long would anyone here last with that kind of treatment and under those conditions?

Even, perhaps especially, if you were innocent?
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:26 AM
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7. War criminals. knr n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:27 AM
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8. bastards. k n r
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:28 AM
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9. so just change the LABEL applied to the 'suspect' detainee to Al Qaed or Taliban, and voila
Instant torture authorization.
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