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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:17 PM Original message |
Journalist bets he can stand waterboarding for 15 seconds (Video) |
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Lisa0825 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. oops... started to watch but it said "playboy original video." |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. jesus. the soldier doesnt think its torture. jesus. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Hey, the guy may have been Ranger or SF trained. If active duty, he could not legally |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. What about the recent guy who was waterboarded... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. The former CIA senior agent on Mathew's show said that K. Mohamed had probably |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. So, do we know where K. Mohamed is now? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I question whether that guy is a soldier |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. It was probably for Added Realism... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. If he's Special Forces with SERE training he's been waterboarded during training. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Yeah, during training on how to resist torture |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Not saying he was trained to do it. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. One can volunteer to be tortured |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The journalist volunteered to be waterboarded. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. No need to watch the video |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "knew it wasn't real" Bingo! |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You're wrong about that |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Yeah, I wonder if he had volunteered to do this three times in a row, if he would |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. the video proved he was such a moran he didn't really understand the process. Must not be an |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. That soldier seemed emotionally flatlined... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. No, IMO, he was playing a role. People who have to go into an area ahead of others |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. His distinction seemed to be whether you're "invoking an existing fear" or "actual damage" and blood |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. He didn't make it 5 seconds. nt |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I counted to three one thousand before he dropped it |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wonder if curling your upper lip over your nostrils could keep the water out. n/t |
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Hard_Work (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Possibly |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I bet the cloth keeps your lip away from your nose anyway. And compresses your nostrils open. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I don't know anyone who has an upper lip long enough to cover their nose? |
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RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Let me introduce myself |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. I tried it, and I can "scrunch" my lip up high enough to partially cover my nostrils. n/t |
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. Anyone remember the movie, Brainstorm? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Everyone emotionally breaks down and says "anything" ... or they die in the process. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. . |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. . |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. How can that "soldier" think waterboarding isn't torture? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. He doesn't think. His script tells him it can't be torture unless there's "actual damage" & blood |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Special Operations troops with SERE training are waterboarded during training. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No, Special Ops and other "first alert" troops are trained to KNOW that torture will break you |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes and that training involves waterboarding. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. That's part of the "Role Play" for teaching tolerance for torture. These methods have only ONE GOAL. |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. "f you want any further information, however bogus, you will have to repeatedly torture." truth |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Yes, and now, because of all the oxygen starvation, the guy's probably "a vegetable." |
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BelgianMadCow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. next, I imagine this happening on a routine basis |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
40. No thanks. I prefer porn that has sex in it, rather than violence |
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Born_A_Truman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
44. Can't watch |
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