Harman should be thrown in jail for aiding and abetting a foreign spy

[FLAprogressive]

Simple as that.

If she had been talking to an Iranian or North Korean spy, she'd be thrown in jail in a heartbeat....espionage is espionage and a spy is a spy.

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. AIPAC is destroying this country

So are the NRA and a few other lobbies with far too much power. But AIPAC is the only one selling us out to a foreign government. One that happens to be controlled by an extremist regime led by a genocidal lunatic.

[FLAprogressive]

2. uhoh you're not allowed to say that -- or you'll be called an anti-Semite!

even though it seems like most Jewish people oppose what Israel is doing.

[onenote]

3. "it seems like most Jewish people oppose what Israel is doing"

You got a link for that?

Here's one that suggests you have a career ahead of you as a writer of fiction:
http://www.jstreet.org/files/images/J_Street_Survey_March_2009_Final_Results.doc

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. Like I said, there are other lobbies which are just as corrupt

Does that make me an "anti-gun-nut-ite" or an "anti-pharmashill-ite"??

[onenote]

5. and since aipac is a grassroots organization supported by a lot of American Jews

I take it that you believe that those American Jews who support AIPAC are trying to destroy this country.

Just seeking a clarification here.

[FLAprogressive]

6. AIPAC? Grassroots?

:rofl:

About as "grassroots" as your posts on the subject have been.

[onenote]

13. all two of my replies at the time you posted this?

And by the way, where is the support for your claim that "most Jewish people opppose what Israel is doing'?

All I heard from you on that was crickets.

[FLAprogressive]

15. I don't really care. AIPAC is still a dangerous organization.

[onenote]

16. You don't really care about facts. Tell us something we don't already know.

[Howardx]

7. what exactly is "grassroots" about aipac?

elaborate please.

[onenote]

11. it is a membership organization

not a corporate pac. In fact it doesn't have a pac and doesn't make financial contributions to candidates. It marshals its members to engage in letter writing and personal visits with members of Congress. That's exactly what a grass roots organization is.

[FLAprogressive]

14. lol many astroturf organizations are "membership organizations"

[onenote]

17. wow. You've heard the term astroturf. Now go learn what it means.

Unless of course you think that AIPAC doesn't really have tens of thousands of individual supporters and that when it brings groups to Washington to visit congressional offices or engages in letter writing campaigns, the attendees/letter writers are actually paid shills.

Of course, based on what you've posted here so far, you either do believe that is the case or don't care that its not.

By the way, I am not a donor to or supporter of AIPAC. I'm just not so divorced from reality to pretend that AIPAC doesn't have the support of tens of thousands of AMerican Jews who will aggressively voice their support for AIPAC's positions through grassroots letter writing, petition drives, congressional visits etc.

Buh-bye. I'll visit with you again when you decide to post information based on fact rather than your imagination.

[Howardx]

18. "doesn't make financial contributions to candidates"

it just dictates to its members exactly where they should contribute or withhold. i have difficulty with considering any lobbying organization especially one lobbying for a foreign government "grassroots".

[onenote]

19. those lemming like Jews who do exactly what they're told

I'm sure that's not what you meant. And I'm sure you didn't mean to suggest that other lobbying organizations don't give their members information as to which members deserve their support. Indeed, there are plenty of such organizatons, unlike AIPAC, that post rankings of members on their website.

[Sebastian Doyle]

8. Claiming that "most American Jews" support AIPAC is like claiming most Americans supported Chimpy.

It's a goddamn lie no matter how many times you repeat it.

And they're about as "grassroots" as the teabaggers.

And a foreign lobby having influence over this government is wrong, period. I don't give a flying fuck WHICH foreign lobby it is.

[onenote]

12. and its an even bigger goddam lie for you to suggest I said any such thing

But I don't suppose that will stop you will it?

[cascadiance]

10. A lot of the same people like Brent Scowcroft are both in AIPAC and in the ATC...

... aka (the American TURKISH Council)! Hmmm... So why is that? What's the link?

Hint! It is something that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about! The Military Industrial Complex!!

These guys are just as much for hiking up our military aid to these countries (which are as high as any of our allies to both of them). Both people here (tied to our defense companies), and people there who benefit from having tons of military hardware at their disposal benefit from them "building their influence" over our politicians, and how our taxpayer money is being spent (or Israel's or Turkey's for that matter).

Are they representing true Jewish and Israeli interests for AIPAC? Probably as much as they are representing true Muslim and Turkish interests for the ATC... In other words, that's down the list!

The AIPAC was trying to twist arms to get us ready to attack Iran, but when you do polls in Israel, only a minority of Israelis want to attack Iran too. How are they "representing Israel"?

AIPAC and ATC are both part of the massive corruption scheme that is destroying our government and with it our economy and our country!

Oh and BTW, who likely helped hire Carol Lam over to Qualcomm in San Diego before Democrats could make a case to hire her back as the U.S. Attorney that was working on cases like Dusty Foggo, Brent Wilkes, Duke Cunningham, etc.? None other than the above mentioned Brent Scowcroft on the board at Qualcomm in addition to being instrumental in the agendas of AIPAC and the ATC...

And now you have Dennis Hastert working for "Dickstein Shapiro" (nice Jewish sounding name) working on the part of lobbying for Turkey, after that mess three years ago where he was being bought off on the Armenian genocide bill before the House.

[cali]

9. hyperbole. The breakfast, lunch and high tea of DUers.