It appears the torture began before the memos

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http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=04&year=2009&base_name=did_the_cia_torture_before_it

DID THE CIA TORTURE BEFORE IT WAS "LEGAL"?

In an earlier post I noted that SERE psychologist Bruce Jessen circulated a memo on "exploitative" techniques in April of 2002, months before Jay Bybee's August 2002 memo declaring such techniques "legal." Jane Mayer reports that FBI agents may have been present for an interrogation where torture was used prior to the Bybee memo--which prompted FBI Director Robert Mueller to tell his agents to "stay away."

By June 2002—again, months before the Department of Justice gave the legal green light for interrogations—an F.B.I. special agent on the scene of the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah refused to participate in what he called “borderline torture,” according to a D.O.J. investigation cited in the Levin report. Soon after, F.B.I. Director Robert Mueller commanded his personnel to stay away from the C.I.A.’s coercive interrogations. snip

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1. Dec. 1, 2001 first phone call re torture?