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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:18 PM Original message |
School District IT Database Manager Makes $70k, 30 Year Math Teacher Makes $66k |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are more trained math teachers than DBA's |
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GregorFalso5 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. pay difference |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. The DBA could probably do the math teacher's job, but not vise versa. (nt) |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Doubtful |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. doubtful |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I believe you are likely to be wrong here. It might depend on the |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I suppose it depends on whether the DBA majored in computer science which requires calculus |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. For my comp sci major we were required to take many 400 level math course |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Or whether the DBA has an MCSE... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. It's not bad data, it just lacks proper parenting. |
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yasmina27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Another doubtful here |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Probably True. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Wrong |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. In the school district where I used to be a math teacher |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. I doubt it |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Is there any variation between a 9 month and 12 month position? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have only one problem with this: The math teacher is underpaid |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Why do you think they are underpaid? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I think a teacher should be paid more |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Market forces can and should rule here |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. I think the degree required |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Hmm, what's median pay for a job requiring at least a Bachelor's degree at 30 years of service? |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. 70K is on the low side for a database manager of a large system. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
11. takes more knowledge to be a DB manager than a math teacher |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. Apples and oranges |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
13. DBAs where i work are pulling 100+.. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. Do high school math teachers even major in math? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. In This Particular Case |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. To be honest, Ive seen the same at another district Im familiar with... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Depending on the state, they do. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. Does the IT guy get the summer off? |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. The summer is not "off" it is a three-month period of unemployment that is... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. Its called the free market...Good IT guys are harder to find that math teachers |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Are you saying that teacher salaries are a reason for a floundering system? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No, but the current contract system is a contributor |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Well, then you really are saying that teacher salaries are a factor |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No, I am saying that the antiquated industrial model of everyone with the same seniority and quals |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Actually, there's a national shortage of math teachers. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Then they should get paid more than their more plentiful counterparts in other fields |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Nope. That's not how it works in education. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. But it should |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. The current model is based on reality, though. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. "School District" IT Database Manager Makes $70k |
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Metatron (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Yep |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
42. In Wisconsin anyway |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
43. completely different skill set, education, supply, and demand. eom |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. I'm an ex-teacher but this is a dumb comparison |
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