Pelosi knew about interrogations early on.

[Infinite Hope]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090427/pl_politico/21724_1

[kentuck]

1. I'll say it again.

It doesn't matter if they have an (R) or (D) by their name if they committed a crime.

[pleah]

2. I'm with you on that!

:thumbsup:

[JSK]

3. Of course she did

So did others, like Feinstein. It is crystal clear why there have been no investigations. Partners in crime.

[niceypoo]

5. It was classified at the time

So they couldnt say anything. They were also lied to as to the extent of what was going on. They were briefed for exactly the reason we are seeing play out now, so the Bush administration could use them as cover.

[Fumesucker]

8. Any politician that believes what they are told is a fool..

Of course they were lied to, the politician who does not expect to be lied to is too clueless to be able to breathe on their own.

And if a congressperson cannot speak up about illegal activities on the part of the government then who can?

I don't care if the bushies are using these people as cover or not, they did what they did.

[blm]

10. Who were they REALLY listening to at the time expecting HONEST advisement on these matters?

What powerful Dem influenced DC Dems the most on these matters where they ended up giving so much support and cover to BushInc?

[Fumesucker]

14. Look, I'm running low on tinfoil..

I'll have to go to the store tonight. :)

[blm]

16. You need tinfoil when it's wellknown DC Dem leaders depended on Bill Clinton's view based on info

he had privileged access while he was in office?

[Winterblues]

15. They could have kept Impeachment On the Table though......

:shrug: Nader was not so far wrong in his description of the two Parties..

[closeupready]

21. Yes.

n/t

[spanone]

4. let the chips fall where they may

[dmosh42]

6. She also knew about the wiretaps.....

She's been down in the mud with the GOP, so there won't be investigations. What a bunch of criminals!

[blm]

7. What powerful Dem was advising DC Dems like Pelosi, Harman, Daschle, Reid, Hoyer, Feinstein,

Lieberman and other Dems involved in powerful positions in support of Bush's military and intel decisions at the time?

Funny, how NO ONE in the media or in our party wants to dare utter that BASIC TRUTH......Bush was supported because Bill Clinton used his privileged office and its access to classified information to URGE support of Bush.

Bill Clinton was Bush's right hand man in selling his war decisions to Dem leaders, lawmakers and the American people.

[Political Heretic]

19. er... huh?

[blm]

26. Well, some are acting like Pelosi acted in a vacuum as she did whatever Bush wanted

regarding terrorism and war, but, in fact she and other Dem leaders were being advised by someone they trusted (Bill Clinton) to let Bush handle military and intel matters and urged to give their support and cooperation.

[Lasher]

9. Nine members of Congress were briefed.

Pelosi dismissed such criticism, telling reporters the 2002 briefing was strictly classified, and she was hamstrung from raising objections with officials or even sharing information with other lower-ranking committee members.

Neither Pelosi nor any of the rest could discuss this with anyone whomever, not even members of their staff, for fear that the Bush administration would arrest them for committing a security breach. If you can think of a way to raise an issue without communicating with anyone about it, please enlighten me.

[Spazito]

11. Good old Politico...

Just like it's twin, Talon News, it's only purpose is to regurgitate right-wing crap. I don't believe a damn thing published by that POS, in fact, I look at their crap as the same old projection spewed by Rove et al.

Edited to add:

For those who do not know who owns Politico:

Politico is financed by Robert Allbritton, chairman and chief executive of Allbritton Communications, which owns television stations in Washington and elsewhere, and is an affiliate of Disney-owned ABC. Frederick J. Ryan Jr., former Assistant to President Ronald Reagan<2>, and currently chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Foundation, is president and CEO of Politico.<3>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicos

[Hell Hath No Fury]

22. Nancy Pelosi admitted that she...

Had been briefed on the techniques and the possibility the Administration might use them.

She knew they had plans to torture.

End of story, simple as that.

She is my Rep. and of everyone, I have the right to say Pelosi is spinning bullshit when she tries to make the lame distinction that she didn't know they were actually torturing, only that they might torture. :eyes:

Horse. Shit.

[Spazito]

24. My point was to say Politico is rabid right wing crap....

What actually occurred wrt Nancy Pelosi, the briefings, Porter Goss, etc, is not going to be found by reading Politico which, btw, is akin to believing, without question, Fox News stories or believing the New York Post.

[ejpoeta]

12. the reason they don't want to go into that closet is because their crap is there too!

we need accountability! i don't care WHO was involved... i want people prosecuted!!

[NNN0LHI]

13. an adviser to Pelosi (D-Calif.), speaking on condition of anonymity

Politico.

Sorry bub but I will take a pass on believing this bullshit.

Don

[emulatorloo]

17. Agreed -- I don't understand why so many here are willing to take the word of BOEHNER and POLITICO

Both understand well the tactics of RIghT wing Distraction.

[Political Heretic]

18. Simple: because it completely tracks with everything we know about Pelosi.

[NNN0LHI]

23. No I think it tracks with everything we know about some goof balls on this site

[emulatorloo]

28. Weird - Personally I wouldn't believe BOEHNER if his tongue came notarized

Republicans are great at distraction and projection, that is, accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of. Politico is great at getting their message out.

[Political Heretic]

29. I don't believe him. I believe aides, even anonymous ones.

I'm sorry but I have not yet gone conspiratorial enough to believe that news outlets just make up sources. So when they've got an aid source, and the information tracks with what I'd already expect, then I'm likely to believe it.

[closeupready]

20. This is why she argues in favor of 'moving on'.

She is complicit.

[Supersedeas]

27. demonizing Nancy is a political diversion; being briefed is not a crime

[Political Heretic]

30. It's a political career ender, just as much motivation to attempt to derail and investigation

[Supersedeas]

33. maybe so (and I agree that it ought to be) but shifting the focus to Nancy is a TACTIC

to divert attention FROM the real decision makers and their artfully plead 'legal' facilitators.

[bamacrat]

25. Reason prsecution will not happen..

where do you draw the line those who crafted the plans, those who authorized them or the people who represent us and are there to catch these things and stand up for whats right. If you know a murder is going to happen and you do nothing you are guilty.

[Duer 157099]

31. “We were not — I repeat — were not told that waterboarding ...

“... or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used,” she said.

OK, let's take her at her word here, which frankly is easy since I can imagine a briefing wherein they just discuss the OLC memos and how there are these subtle distinctions that only lawyers really understand, etc

So what's she thinking then? "Oh, ok, so the OLC has decided that if they need to, the CIA can engage in these techniques -- hopefully they'll never need to!"

C'mon, really Nancy? You really thought that these guys were just being extra diligent to parse the law out to the most ridiculous extreme, just in case they found they had to go there?

[Duer 157099]

32. BTW, Nancy, don't forget that John Yoo slapped you in the face when

he said that if at any time, anyone in Congress thought that what the Bush admin was doing was wrong, then they could have immediately put a stop to it by impeaching Bush.

Yeah, YOO said that.