If this flu doesn't develop into a killer epidemic, it will be because

[hedgehog]

Poll question: If this flu doesn't develop into a killer epidemic, it will be because

[hedgehog]

1. I think this is a classic case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If people die, Obama will be blamed. If people don't die, Obama will be blamed.

[Massacure]

39. If people don't die, Obama will be blamed...

I know that you are trying to say that Obama will be blamed for jumping the gun and falling for the hysteria, but the way you said it just sounds really funny. :evilgrin:

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Other, national and international officials did what they needed to do

[Fleshdancer]

5. bingo. n/t

[hedgehog]

6. What, other nations are concerned with this? But, that would

blow the theory that this story is meant to distract Americans!

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Imagine that... yes

Hell the EU issued a traveller alert for Europeans NOT to travel to NYC... hell Bloomberg is pissed i tell you

:-)

[Posteritatis]

9. Hell, that would imply that there *were* other nations!

There's some pretty damned insular people around here, going by some of the other postings I've seen. ;P

[readmoreoften]

28. Exactly. /nt

[phantom power]

3. I would suggest "The WHO and CDC did a good job" as an option.

Plus, the jury is still out on how bad it really is.

[FourScore]

27. ditto. A compliment those organizations rarely receive. n/t

[etherealtruth]

29. I agree

The WHO and the CDC are acting responsibly. They are not shrieking "we're all going to die," they are reporting the facts.

[ronnykmarshall]

4. KKKarl !

It's got be because of KKKarl!!

EVERYTHING is because of KKKarl!

Or ................. IT'S A TRAP!

[Occam Bandage]

8. It was either not communicable enough, too communicable, or not deadly enough

to spread despite a worldwide effort to control it.

If it doesn't become a pandemic, that doesn't mean "the fuss was all for nothing." I think we ought to monitor and be concerned about potential outbreaks of new and potentially deadly flu strains. "The fuss was all for nothing" implies that we oughtn't have spent the time and effort.

[TZ]

10. Of course it has nothing to do

With the actual virus...:sarcasm:

[depakid]

11. It will be because this particular strain isn't highly virulent

Come next Autumn- or the following years, a reassorted "derivative" might be- so word to the wise is: use the current situation as kind of a "dry run" for what might be in store.

[Hannah Bell]

12. where's option "DU panic-mongers will pretend they never said nuttin'."

kinda like they did with the bank bailouts.

[DainBramaged]

13. And peak oil.

[Hannah Bell]

14. and the rice shortage.

[DainBramaged]

15. OMG I forgot about that one too!!!

And Olive Garden, don't forget that one.

:yourock:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. And war with Iran.

[Edweird]

19. OMG that was the BEST! SO many fear mongers.

[Edweird]

18. LOL.. Some old favorites of mine are the 'suspension of elections',

'internment camps' & "the coming collapse of our financial system - MAD MAX!' I almost forgot the grandaddy of them all - 'WAR WITH IRAN!!' Some new favorites are 'the coming civil war' & 'Mexican drug gangs are coming to kill Americans'.

[Sebastian Doyle]

25. Well, the collapse of the financial system and war with Iran are still very possible.

Though it will be Israel's batshit insane government that starts the war with Iran, instead of the batshit insane Chimp/Cheney government.

[walldude]

32. LOL... now the freepers have taken up the

suspension of elections, internment camps, and martial law mantra. While some of DU has taken the my party right or wrong" mantra.


All we did was switch places. It's getting boring.

[Hannah Bell]

33. nah, they were saying that stuff when clinton was prez.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. D. Most epidemics do NOT blossom into pandemics.

They just burn out.

[Dollface]

20. I prefer more information to less

[kimmerspixelated]

21. Because someone screwed up in the lab

where it was concocted in the first place.

[DainBramaged]

22. I agree this doesn't look like a naturally occuring 'virus'

I am not a biologist, but combining pig, human, and aviary flu virus to create a super bug, what are the chances in nature? And that THE bug has two variants, one in Mexico and one in the US.


Maybe the Mythbusters need to look at this???

[kimmerspixelated]

23. From NaturalNews:

"This is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those some pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs -- in Mexico! -- and spread it to others. (This isn't the only explanation of how it could have happened, but it is one scenario that gives you an idea of the complexity of such a thing happening).". -Naturalnews-Mike Adams

[DainBramaged]

26. I need to repost your post on pig flu so I can put it in my journal with emphasis

and a whole bunch of exclamations.


"This is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those some pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs -- in Mexico! -- and spread it to others. (This isn't the only explanation of how it could have happened, but it is one scenario that gives you an idea of the complexity of such a thing happening).". -Naturalnews-Mike Adams

[hedgehog]

30. Or - someone from the US carried a virus with a piece of avian flu on their trip to Italy.

While in Italy, they passed the virus to a German who passed it on to someone until it eventually was given to a farm worker in Hungry. The virus then was passed to the pigs the Hungarian was caring for. A duck caught it from the pigs, then at the winter breeding grounds passed it to a duck that ended up in China. The Chinese duck passed the flu to a Chinese pig. The guy taking care of the pigs saved up his money and gave it to a smuggler who promised him a job in the US. He stowed away on a ship to Mexico with a lot of other guys, and passed his flu on to all of them. Once in Mexico, they passed on their flu to the smuggler who passed it on to his family.


Flu viruses are always mixing and re-mixing! That's why the WHO is so aggressive in monitoring flu outbreaks.

[Codeine]

43. You're not a biologist

but it doesn't look right to you?

But it looks just fine to every virologist around.

Hmmmm. . . wonder who's more likely to be right here?

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Because this has not happened before... see 1918 flu pandemic

1957 flue pandemic

1968 flu pandemic

And of course suspected cases going back to the 1500's

[hedgehog]

34. There are two concerns here. The first is that this virus is

different enough from other flu viruses that people won't have any immunity from previous vaccines or from having the flu before. The second is that this flu appears to have a high mortality rate, and that it is killing the young and healthy. I think in 1957 and 1968 a lot of people got sick, but it was the elderly and chronically ill who were killed.

[Obamanaut]

24. "It will be because" Susan Boyle made a CD and saved the world. nt

[Two Americas]

35. not sure what people are lookin for

Just as with hurricane warnings or tornado warnings, the agencies are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Here is what is happening - after 8 years of the Bush administration, people here are now suspicious of everything from every public agency and are taking a libertarian "no government" view. The right wing is plying you - I can promise you that. We saw it with the smear campaign against the (very progressive) food safety bill being considered by Congress that would re-regulate the food industry, and restore inspections and that is opposed by corporate agri-business. Extreme right wing organizations started a fear campaign that people's home grown organic tomatoes would be confiscated and who knows what else - all lies, all nonsense - and dozens of organic organizations took that ball and ran with it and spread the lies all over the Internet.

I think we need to be careful that we are not inadvertently supporting the right wing attacks on government. There are right wing organizations pushing an agenda that there should be no public health agencies, no government involvement in public health and safety issues, that no agencies can ever be trusted, that no science should be honored, that no public servants have integrity. This is a right wing theme, and people are promoting it here.



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[bluedawg12]

36. Very well said. n/t

[xchrom]

37. well apprently it's all the fault of 'DU panic mongers'.

cause 'DU panic mongers' are more powerful than the Illuminati.

who knew?

i come from a community that has suffered horribly because of a virus.

lost my partner to it.
diseases like this can kill -- maybe your grndmother, maybe your very younf baby brother.

but always remember 'DU panic mongers' are really to blame.

:eyes:

[bluedawg12]

38. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Here is some info. as I suspect you are near the eye of the storm. Be safe. :hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5545680&mesg_id=5548691

[xchrom]

44. it rings all kinds of off key bells.

thanks for the info dude.

we live in interesting times.

[BlooInBloo]

40. Because the omgweregonnadie cheerleaders didn't clap loudly enough.

[Lyric]

41. We got lucky?

:shrug:

[HughMoran]

42. None of those answers are realistic

Funny joke though. :)