Why are pot smokers compelled to tell people that pot is an herb?

[BuyingThyme]

Just wondering.

[seemslikeadream]

1. It was labeled marijuana just to make it sound Mexican

It is cannabis

[BuyingThyme]

39. I can't tell whether or not that is a joke.

[ContinentalOp]

71. Read up on the history of criminalization. Harry J. Anslinger, William Randolph Hearst, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger#The_campaign_against_marijuana_1930-1937

edit: lol, I originally wrote "decriminalization" stupid stoner

[BlooInBloo]

2. Not JUST an herb. An herb that will heal EVERYTHING. An herb that can make ANYTHING!

:rofl:

[cbc5g]

103. It's whitey's fault

that I know of.

[Toucano]

3. I wasn't aware that they were. n-t

[Horse with no Name]

4. Are you jealous that you are "just a spice"?

:rofl:
Sorry, couldn't resist.

On edit I guess I should say that I know YOU are a herb, but not everybody knows that. Identity crisis and all.:D

[BuyingThyme]

24. I'm a sponge.

:P

[GoneOffShore]

112. If you are not part of the solution.....

then you are either a gas, solid, plasma or some other form of matter.

[parasim]

5. Uh, because it is one? nt

[BuyingThyme]

7. Yeah, but why do they say so as if it's some kind of talking point?

[parasim]

8. I dunno, maybe because the idea of making an herb illegal is preposterous?

A natural, healing herb, illegal. That's nuts.

[BuyingThyme]

16. Okay. But why not just say so.

[Mutley]

104. Because they are too stoned to follow the thought to its logical conclusion.

:P

[seemslikeadream]

6. Cannabis Cures Cancer - "Run From The Cure" The Rick Simpson Story

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7331006790306000271

[1]

9. i think they have been hanging out with the vegans...

[Ignis]

122. So they've stopped smoking the Meat Cigarette?

:rofl:

[scarletwoman]

10. Uh, maybe because it IS an herb? I don't feel "compelled" to say that, although as someone who

values truth, I do feel inclined to point that out.

Herbs are merely plants with certain properties that make them useful for culinary and/or medicinal purposes. Marijuana is a plant with properties that make it medicinally and psychotropicly useful.

A drug is a manufactured chemical compound. Marijuana is not manufactured, it's just a natural plant.

sw

[parasim]

11. Nicely put.

nt

[BuyingThyme]

14. So when pot smokers tell people that pot is an herb, they don't realize that people

already know that?

[killbotfactory]

18. I doubt most people do know that.

Considering the negative propaganda catapulted by the government against it since the 1930's.

[BuyingThyme]

21. I don't know many people who think it's a tree.

It's definitely not a fish.

[killbotfactory]

25. Why does it matter?

It's an herb, so people call it an herb. The government calls it a dangerous plant with no medicinal uses whatsoever. Do you take issue with the government lying about it, banning it, and throwing people in jail and ruining their lives for possessing, selling, or consuming it?

[BuyingThyme]

26. That was my question in the OP.

[killbotfactory]

27. your question has been answered.

It's an herb. It has medicinal uses as a medicinal herb. That's why people call it an herb. Your question seemed to imply that it is not an herb, and some people apparently agreed with you.

[BuyingThyme]

29. I didn't intend to imply that it is not an herb.

I wanted to find out why people are compelled to say so.

For instance, when I walk my dog, I don't tell people that my dog is a dog. Most of them already know that.

[killbotfactory]

33. If the government tried to ban your dog as a dangerous wild beast

then you might be compelled to tell people that your dog is in fact just a dog.

[BuyingThyme]

35. I see. It's JUST an herb.

[killbotfactory]

42. It contains THC which is a drug with medicinal and recreational uses

But is by no means dangerous enough to warrant banning and fining or jailing people who want to use, grow, or sell it.

Coffee contains caffeine, which is a drug, but nobody calls coffee a drug.

[BuyingThyme]

46. I call coffee a drug.

[killbotfactory]

51. Off the top of your head, can you define what a drug is?

[BuyingThyme]

54. The word has multiple applications.

As coffee goes, it's something you drink to get you going in the morning.

[killbotfactory]

58. You must be fun at parties.

[BuyingThyme]

60. I am. But why would you say that?

[killbotfactory]

70. Because you call coffee a drug.

I assume you call chocolate a drug, too. And cheese. And your brain, which produces it's own drugs.

But you probably only bring it up within conversations designed to make people who consume pot feel like assholes.

[BuyingThyme]

75. I call coffee a drug because it's a drug.

If that makes you feel like an asshole, you have a very low tolerance for coffee.

As for parties, I've never partied on coffee. It's never even occurred to me to do so.

[conscious evolution]

95. No greens and beans?

Dude,you're missing out on the greatest combination of herbs ever.

[BuyingThyme]

106. Coffee is yucky.

I'm going with Diet Pepsi.

[conscious evolution]

124. Coffee yucky? Die you heretic!1!1!11!

[Ghost in the Machine]

88. THC wasn't a drug until the government labeled it as a drug...

until then, it was just a chemical in a naturally growing plant...

Heroin and morphine used to be just "elixors", didn't they?

[girl gone mad]

118. All dogs are dogs.

Not all plants are herbs.

A more precise analogy would be that when you walk your dog, you don't tell people that he is a Briard or Berger Picard or what have you.

[ContinentalOp]

74. Not a tree eh?

:P

[BuyingThyme]

77. To be a tree, it's got to have a trunk.

I know my dendrology.

[ContinentalOp]

79. You just can't see it.

Those guys are standing on a platform high up in a rainforest canopy. haha, I said high.

[sniffa]

92. I hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono

[Chovexani]

114. Too soon, bro. Too soon.

:D

[sniffa]

133. I hit the trees like Kennedy's on skis?

:D

[LanternWaste]

113. delete

Delete

[scarletwoman]

20. When people refer to marijuana as a "drug", why would I assume that they "already know"

that it's an herb? Your question makes no sense to me, sorry.

[BuyingThyme]

22. Do you think people assume it's a pill?

[scarletwoman]

30. So, am I to believe that you've been totally unaware of all the Drug War propaganda for the past

6, 7, 8 or so decades referring to marijuana as a "dangerous DRUG"? As a "gateway DRUG"? As a "Class A DRUG"?

WTF is your point? The drug warriors ALL refer to marijuana as a "DRUG" -- do you mean to say you've never noticed this?

Yeah, us users are quite aware that marijuana is an herb -- but we're not the problem, are we.

:eyes:

sw

[BuyingThyme]

34. Umm... Marijuana is definitely a drug. Being an herb does not lessen the druginess.

Is that what it's supposed to do?

[scarletwoman]

44. No, it's not a drug, it's a plant.

An herb is a plant.

Foxglove is a plant, digitalis is a drug manufactured by synthesizing certain chemical components of that plant.

Willow is a plant, aspirin is a drug manufactured by isolating certain chemical components of that plant.

Valerian is a plant, Valium is a drug manufactured by synthesizing certain chemical components of that plant.

An Opium poppy is a plant, heroin is a drug manufactured by isolating certain chemical components of that plant.

Coca is a plant, cocaine is a drug manufactured by isolating certain chemical components of that plant.

Marijuana is a plant. Period.

sw

[BuyingThyme]

47. Well I'm glad we settled that.

[kentuck]

49. But, I'm told that if you smoke it...

it is mind-altering. Some people feel like they are in an 8-foot bubble. Some people seem to need medicine for their bodies and some folks seem to need medicine for their heads...

[scarletwoman]

56. So? People consume coffee because it alters their mental state.

Shouldn't people be free to adjust their mental and physical states as they see fit?

sw

[kentuck]

59. I can't argue with that...

:-)___/3___~~~~


peace

[Occam Bandage]

64. No. I'm perfectly fine with keeping meth illegal. And heroin, and cocaine.

That shit destroys people. In extreme situations involving highly destructive substances that prevent users from rationally analyzing their benefit, I think the interest of public health can outweigh the interest of individual freedom.

[killbotfactory]

65. Alcohol destroys people too

But it was worse when it was illegal.

[Occam Bandage]

68. Alcohol is not comparable to meth. Not in the slightest.

Don't be dumb.

[killbotfactory]

73. It's not, but making something illegal doesn't stop anybody from using it.

And one of the main the problem with meth addicts is that they resort to thievery to fund their addiction. If alcohol or tobacco was banned in the same way meth is, you would see similar problems.

[Occam Bandage]

78. It certainly doesn't stop people who already use it from acquiring more,

nor does it absolutely prevent the spread to new users. However, I think it absolutely does help minimize the number of people who begin using it, as part of a comprehensive anti-drug program of awareness-raising, poverty reduction, treatment options, and educational opportunities. I agree that any ban of anything is going to result in undesirable criminal behavior, and think it is necessary to balance the negative effects of any policy against the positives, as well as to anticipate such behavior legally and adjust laws accordingly; nobody is helped by throwing people in jail on felony charges for simple possession of any drug.

[killbotfactory]

80. I don't think many people would seek it out

If it was legally available in special clinics. I think it would help if drugs like that were available in safe, controlled, and legal ways. By making desired drugs illegal we lose a large amount of control over how it is used and who has access to it.

[Fumesucker]

94. That's true..

You can keel over dead from alcohol withdrawal..

Not so with meth.

[kentuck]

67. But what about marijuana?

Would you keep it illegal also?

[Occam Bandage]

69. No. I don't think there's a significant public health benefit to keeping it illegal.

I simply don't believe that in absolutely no-exceptions all possible cases, it is to the benefit of a society to enable people to alter their mental/physical states as they desire. When the substance in question causes demonstrable and grievous harm, and when it is addictive to the extent that users are neurologically incapable of deciding whether to continue or discontinue use, I think it is the duty of a society to protect itself from that substance.

I do not believe marijuana could be fairly described by what I've just written, so I'm not challenging sw's belief that pot should be legalized. I am challenging her belief that it's best to simply legalize and open all drugs, chemicals, medicines of all sorts to consumption by any and all.

[scarletwoman]

72. That's the difference between drugs and a simple herb. (nt)

[Occam Bandage]

76. I generally agree, with one caveat:

it is entirely possible for nature to produce things that can kill people, and kill them more quickly and assuredly than any recreational drug. However, you're absolutely right that the natural form of psychoactive substances are far less worrisome and less damaging than the refined forms, and that it's absurd to lump marijuana in with cocaine, when it would far better be grouped with things such as khat or coca leaves.

[JonLP24]

109. Keeping it illegal drives the business underground

So instead of resolving disputes through lawsuits, advertising, etc they resort to violence. Drug war is a fraud, they continue to lock up crew chiefs, lieutenants, and addicts while the top guys that never touch drugs just find people to replace them. It never ends people are still scoring dope and people are still getting killed based on "insurance policies". Vast majority of all drug users are non violent and use in their own privacy. Keep using up funds for a freaking war that doesn't end. I wish people could see how much of a fraud this is.

[conscious evolution]

96. It comes in pill form.

Its called Marinol.

[immoderate]

116. My friend's mother asked him...

"How do you do that stuff? Do you shoot it?"

BTW, I hardly ever call marijuana an herb, and I feel no compulsion to do so. Does that blow your whole thesis?


--imm

[shanti]

89. many people don't.

from the propaganda, they just think it's an ee-vill druuuuuuuug.

[TahitiNut]

40. Yup. Tobacco is just an herb, too.

:silly:

[BuyingThyme]

41. Oh, don't even get me started on cigarette smokers.

"I should be able to smoke my herb here." "Nobody has the right to tell me which herbs I can put in my own body." There's no end to it.

[scarletwoman]

50. And if people used it in a sacred manner the way the First Peoples of this continent used it,

tobacco would not be their enemy.

But the wasichu is utterly possessed by greed, and reduces all good things in this world to commodities and holds nothing sacred.

Tobacco is not the problem, the greedy and distorted heart of the wasichu culture is the problem.

sw

[Beam Me Up]

90. Yes, I totally agree with you.

I'm someone who struggles with a nicotine addiction. I can, when I'm ready to confront some inner emotional demons, quit cold turkey and make it stick -- for weeks, months -- I've gone as long as ten years. But nicotine is an addictive substance, a "transparent" drug that, when you're on it, feels totally normal. It's when its not in your system you start to get all "wiggy".

And you're absolutely right. Tobacco is a sacred plant. It has its own sacred being. The shaman's knew this and used it. They had a relationship to the plant that is very different than mine. They grew and harvested their own (mostly), or found it in the wild, originally. It did, I think, have a wampum value but the trade was about lots of things. There was another aspect or level to it that wasichu culture knows little about. But most importantly, tobacco was a special gift, something one always kept as an offering to the more subtle energies and forces of Nature.

My bad habit isn't anything like that.

My marijuana use is a bit different. It isn't an addiction. Sometimes I get high, sometimes I don't and when I don't, I don't miss it. Getting "high" is something I do only "on occasion" -- where smoking cigarettes is almost a pack-a-day habit I can no longer afford. They are completely different experiences.

I've been wanting to see marijuana legalized since I first smoked it at age 19. The idea of having to go to jail for enjoying something as, well, "innocent" really, as getting a "buzz" on is so ridiculous that it was one of the things that clued me into "oppression". If marijuana actually made people do the crazy things it was originally portrayed as doing, hell I wouldn't go near the stuff either. But the insane thing is, what makes people crazy like that (mostly) is alcohol, and that's legal. Educating myself about how that happened was one of the things that got me interested in politics in general. Marijuana legalization is a political issue because its illegality is purely a consequence of politic and money.

That said, I worry a bit about what will happen if/when it is legalized. Right now, where I live, it is almost as good as legal. Not quite, but close. I kind of like the idea of marijuana being grown by individual growers, not some big corporate production. I like the idea of it being available like a fine wine -- with lots of different verities and subtleties. The idea of being able to walk across the street to the little park and rob and buy a pack of joints sealed up in a box with a corporate logo on it kind of grosses me out. Oh the other hand, something equivalent to a wine shop, that I could handle. I'm not a marijuana connoisseur, myself, but that culture does already exist.


typo

[TroglodyteScholar]

131. Is wasichu a pejorative? n/t

[scarletwoman]

132. It's a descriptive. (nt)

[varkam]

134. "A drug is a manufactured chemical compound" - Not so much.

Many drugs are derived naturally. Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's not a drug - cocoa leaves, opium, etc, are all naturally occurring but pretty clearly have effects on the CNS. Just because something is natural doesn't mean that it's neither addictive nor harmful.

[scarletwoman]

135. Please see my post #44. (nt)

[varkam]

136. Well, when you define "drug" as being synonymous with a process of manufacturing...

then sure...except that's not really using the language the way that we have all agreed to use it. A drug is any substance that, when taken into the body, alters normal processes. Maybe you don't like the pejorative nature that some people attach to the term, but to try to redefine anything natural out of that category is just an exercise in semantic contortion.

[killbotfactory]

12. Because it is an herb.

Description

Cannabis is an annual, dioecious, flowering herb. The leaves are palmately compound, with serrate leaflets. The first pair of leaves usually have a single leaflet, the number gradually increasing up to a maximum of about thirteen leaflets per leaf (usually seven or nine), depending on variety and growing conditions. At the top of a flowering plant, this number again diminishes to a single leaflet per leaf. The lower leaf pairs usually occur in an opposite leaf arrangement and the upper leaf pairs in an alternate arrangement on the main stem of a mature plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis

What you should be asking is on what scientific grounds does the government classify it as a schedule 1 drug.

[stevedeshazer]

13. So, a guy with the handle "BuyingThyme",

Oh, never mind.

[XemaSab]

15. Like, it's medicine, man

:eyes:

[Occam Bandage]

17. Along similar lines, I often wonder why they believe "it's natural" is a compelling argument.

Harmless it may well be, but "it's natural" is about the worst possible justification for that claim. Nature is full of shit that can kill you. Deathcap mushrooms are natural, and I certainly wouldn't be putting those in my body.

[BuyingThyme]

19. Actually, I didn't understand that herbalness was meant as a political

argument until I posted this. I really didn't understand why they are so compelled to use the word herb.

[tkmorris]

28. Because, "it's natural" IS a compelling argument to some people

Granted it shouldn't be, but in some circles such a proclamation carries weight nonetheless.

[Occam Bandage]

31. I suppose I can't argue against that.

You gotta go with what works.

[1]

32. i know, somebody posted about being diabetic and wondered if honey would be a better choice...

than sugar.

you know, because bees make honey and its natural and all.

ummm...

[BuyingThyme]

36. I'm pretty sure honey is better for diabetics than processed sugar.

[1]

62. ummm... yeah, if diabetics want to die. sugar is sugar, numnuts, what is your problem?

[BuyingThyme]

66. Sugar is not sugar.

And you're the only one with a problem.

[1]

81. ok. so honey is like, what?

honey is sugar, bud.

i don't get you. honey is sugar.

[BuyingThyme]

82. There are lots of different kinds of sugars.

People's bodies react differently to different sugars. No big deal.

[foo_bar]

83. not by much

Diabetes foods: Is honey a good substitute for sugar?
I have diabetes, and I'm wondering if I can substitute honey for sugar in my diet?

Answer
from Maria Collazo-Clavell, M.D.

Generally, there's no advantage to substituting honey for sugar in a diabetes eating plan. Both honey and sugar will affect your blood sugar level.

Honey is sweeter than granulated sugar, so you might use a smaller amount of honey for sugar in some recipes. But honey actually has slightly more carbohydrates and more calories per teaspoon than does granulated sugar — so any calories and carbohydrates you save will be nominal.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/AN00425

Certain organizations promote honey as only having a glycemic index (GI) of 5o, which is considered low. Others have found that honey is about as bad as white refined sugar in this respect, with a GI of 83, which is high. Here is an interesting piece of research I found: http://www.mendosa.com/diabetes_update_22.htm. Scroll down to where it says, "Is Honey Really Low Glycemic?" There are some great leads to research that has been done on this. My concern is that I have found honey to be a great alternative to white refined sugar, but if it causes my blood sugar to sky-rocket, is it really a healthy alternative to sugar?

If you would like to see the USDA's breakdown of nutrients/types of sugars in honey, go here: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl. It is fascinating! I had no idea that honey contained sucrose, glucose, fructose, maltose and galactose!

Also, I looked up a study published in the British Journal of Nutrition, which concludes, "...there is often no difference in responses (blood sugar responses) between foods containing added sugars and those containing naturally-occurring sugars," http://journals.cambridge.org/action/quickSearch#.

http://myyearwithout.blogspot.com/2008/05/glycemic-index-and-difficulty-in-being.html

I imagine the chemical properties of honey vary substantially from batch to batch (not unlike your sour diesels and bubblegum khush), but it's hard to say if the wildly different "glycemic index" figures are attributable to the type of honey under investigation or the difficulty in standardizing testing methods:

Sydney University GI Research Service (SUGiRS) was established in 1995 to provide a reliable commercial GI testing laboratory for the local and international food industry. Foods are tested in healthy volunteers according to standardised methods that have been validated against laboratories overseas. Insulin, satiety, hunger and other parameters can be assessed simultaneously. SUGiRS has an established reputation for quality, speed and flexibiltiy. We can work with your company to develop new low GI products or help lower the GI of existing ones. Foods that meet nutrition guidelines and have been GI tested can carry the GI symbol. Your results are strictly confidential and are your property. Data are released for publication only with your written approval.
<...>

The GI value of a food is determined by feeding 10 or more healthy people a portion of the food containing 50 grams of digestible (available) carbohydrate and then measuring the effect on their blood glucose levels over the next two hours. For each person, the area under their two-hour blood glucose response (glucose AUC) for this food is then measured. On another occasion, the same 10 people consume an equal-carbohydrate portion of glucose sugar (the reference food) and their two-hour blood glucose response is also measured. A GI value for the test food is then calculated for each person by dividing their glucose AUC for the test food by their glucose AUC for the reference food. The final GI value for the test food is the average GI value for the 10 people.

http://www.glycemicindex.com/

According to glycemicindex.com's resident database:

Yapunya honey (42 % fructose) (Australia) 52
Pure Capilano honey 58
Sugar 58

(GI Database on navbar, can't link directly)

So I'd go with the Yapunya honey at least, although the agave nectar true believers seem to present a better case for diabetics:

Blue Agave cactus nectar, organic, light, 90% fructose 11
Blue Agave cactus nectar, organic, light, 97% fructose 10
Premium Agave Nectar (Sweet Cactus Farms) 19

(ibid.)

[BuyingThyme]

85. I was just going on what an old girlfriend told me.

I wasn't looking to get all into it.

But thank you.

:hi:

[foo_bar]

97. I'm reading the side of a "Really Raw Honey" jar:

Still contains pollen, propolis, honeycomb, and live enzymes- all the goodness the bees put in!

Yech. I didn't italicize that for emphasis, the manufacturer did as a form of puffery, like a million bees can't be wrong. All I'm saying is, this product was obviously designed for hippies, thus your exgf's honey>sucrose position bears similarity to the weed defense (it's "natural" as in (mostly) unrefined, brimming with insectile goodness, superior to derivatives that synthesize the active ingredient, often used as a replacement in brownie recipes, etc.)

[crispini]

100. Actually, honey is better than sucrose in some respects.

Not if you're a diabetic, actually, but a well-known allergy remedy is to take a teaspoon full of raw local honey every day to inoculate your system against local allergens. It works for some folks. And you don't get that effect with sugar.

[foo_bar]

101. unless you're an infant (or severely immune system compromised IIRC)

Is it true that honey can cause infant botulism?
Answer
from Jay L. Hoecker, M.D.

Yes, honey can cause infant botulism. Honey is a known source of bacterial spores that produce Clostridium botulinum bacteria. When ingested by infants, these bacteria make a toxin that can cause infant botulism, a rare and serious form of food poisoning. For this reason, infants under 12 months of age should never be fed honey.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/infant-botulism/hq00854

Although parents often know not to give their infants under twelve months of age plain honey, they often overlook other foods that contain honey in them, such as Honey Graham Crackers, Honey Nut Cheerios, Honey Wheat Bread, etc. Although the honey in these foods may be processed, it may not be pasteurized, and so may still contain botulism spores in them and should be avoided. If you feel strongly about giving these foods to your infant, call the manufacturer to make sure that they are safe.

http://pediatrics.about.com/od/weeklyquestion/a/04_infant_honey.htm

[jkirch]

55. Really? Do "they" say that?

[Occam Bandage]

61. In this thread, even.

I don't know why you put 'they' in scare quotes. 'They' is a pronoun. I am not a pot smoker. The OP refers to pot smokers. What pronoun would you prefer I use? "Her?" "It?" "Ourselves?"

[Hugabear]

84. I've never heard of anybody going to prison for having deathcap mushrooms on their property

And you certainly don't see federal agents out destroying poison ivy or any other poisonous plant.

[BuyingThyme]

86. I've seen forest service guys destroying poison oak.

[girl gone mad]

121. It simply highlights the ludicrousness..

of trying to "outlaw" marijuana.

[Kazak]

23. To contrast it to as a drug.

Also, it suggests that it's natural, which it is.

[dysfunctional press]

37. i''ve never been compelled to tell people any such thing...

:shrug:

[BuyingThyme]

38. Then you don't smoke pot. I clearly said that all pot smokers are knuckleheads

who don't shut up about the herbs.

[kentuck]

43. As a Vietnam veteran, I always regretted that I never smoked...

herb. I saw a lot of people that would gather in small, intimate groups, passing around a joint and listening to the Beatles, or Jefferson Airplane, or the Doors, or Canned Heat or Jimi Hendrix and they all seemed so much wiser than the boozers like me who were getting shit-faced drunk. They seemed to be meditating on a higher plane, so to speak. :-) They thought they were cool. I'm sure many of them graduated to mescaline, MDA, and LSD and other hallucinagens thru the gateway drug, marijuana. They seemed to be searching for something in their lives? Sometimes they looked like they found it...

[BuyingThyme]

52. Do you still regret it?

I don't. But I also got into those "cool" circles on occasion. Maybe they changed the rules by the time I came knocking.

[kentuck]

63. Not any more.

I saw too many people that tried to be "cool" but they were not enlightened in the least. They would grow their hair long and pretend that they were a hippie. They wanted to be part of something but somehow, they just didn't fit....

[Overseas]

45. They're just Buying Thyme. //nt

[seabeyond]

48. i never referred to it as an herb. so i cant tell you why pot smokers a compellled

to tell you that.

[napoleon_in_rags]

53. The same reason they call it grass, jane, smoke, hutch etc.

To veil the fact that they are talking about marijuana, at least that was the original purpose before everybody knew herb=pot.

[dipsydoodle]

57. Simply to define that they're American.

Rest of the english speaking world pronounces the h and so would say a herb : not an 'erb.

[krabigirl]

87. Because it is. Try cooking with Zoloft or Xanax, lol.

[Union Yes]

91. It flavors my brownies and meatballs.

:hippie:

Did you know..

Marijauna never needs to be smoked. It can be mixed in with a whole host of baked recipes. Brownies, meatloaf ect.

[quickesst]

93. It's a talking point usually....

...to emphasize just how rediculous anti-marijuana arguments are, or to bolster one's belief it is not the "devil weed". Not a big one, but still an appropriate reminder. Thanks.
quickesst

[Heidi]

98. To draw attention to the stupidity of it being classified a Schedule I drug. (nt)

[shadowknows69]

99. Bubble bubble bubble....whoosh......Wait. What?

It is an herb man!:hippie:

[cbc5g]

102. I don't know, I'm a pot vaporizer so I don't fit in your classification

[LanternWaste]

105. Just meandering.

I like a coconut pie with cinnamon sprinkled crust.

Just meandering.

[spanone]

107. i'm not compelled, but it is an herb.

[bamacrat]

108. Because it is natural and quite aromatic.

It grows from the earth, you wait until it is dry to harvest, it spices up life. Its an herb.

[Bluenorthwest]

110. You know, it is funny...just today, on another thread

I stopped myself from making a snarky comment about the fact that many people seem compelled to state that they do not smoke pot, even to the point of telling everyone on any pot thread how long it has been since they smoked, or that they never have. No one asks them. They arrive on pot threads to say 'I only smoked it once', as if they were asked. Compelled it seems to me. I find it interesting.

[BuyingThyme]

111. I never killed a guy.

[county worker]

117. I find it stunning that so many here say they smoke pot.

It seems to me like being pro pot is one of our DU "liberal" ideals or something that we all need to conform to. I think that the people who say what their pot experience is are trying to show that they are either part of the common thinking or are they are not.

Getting stoned is a really stupid thing and I am one who will tell you that I was a substance abuser until the late 80's.

It isn't cool to smoke pot.

[girl gone mad]

119. A lot of people would say the same thing about alcohol.

Do you think that should be outlawed, too?

Do you believe you should have received jail time for your substance abuse?

[county worker]

126. What you do is a personal choice no matter what the law is.

I don't believe in putting people in jail for drug abuse or use. I'm saying you make a personal decision to do what you want and the decision to get stoned has a long term negative effect on your life.

[Forkboy]

120. It isn't cool for YOU to smoke pot.

It wasn't right for you, and that's fine. It may be for others, and it should be their choice without having to worry about being locked up for it. And to be honest, even if one were to buy the stupid angle, it's STILL their choice. Hell, if we outlaw things because they're stupid we can dispand the Republican party...


Oh wait... :D

[county worker]

127. I don't believe in putting people in jail for drug use.

I just think you shouldn't do it as a matter of personal choice.

[Forkboy]

129. A logical and respectful way to approach it.

:toast:

[CrownPrinceBandar]

123. And I find it stunning that folks are shocked..........

when people on a certain side of an issue stand up for what they see is sensible. Folks recounting their pot stories? Mostly, that's just nostalgia: "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".

Sorry you had problems w/ substance. But there are some of us out here who do not have proclivities towards addiction/abuse and can handle our "getting stoned" in a non-habitual, responsible manner.

[county worker]

125. I guess time will tell.

Life has a lot of pain and getting stoned to avoid the pain is not helpful.

[Chovexani]

115. Can't believe the thread went this long without Katt Williams on the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWhUqo9Aivs

(Language extremely NSFW.)

[Fuzz]

128. Good on a salad?

[Wizard777]

130. Because it is. "weed" can be applied to any undesirable plant.

In biblical times the mustard plant was considered undesirable and a weed. Now it's desirable and an herb.

[Threedifferentones]

137. Why are people who do not smoke pot compelled to ask asinine questions about it on DU?

Just wondering...