The New York Jokes Are Sick. SACK THE AIRFORCE MEMBERS THAT AGREED THE FLYOVER

[TheBigotBasher]

To be joking about this is sick.

For the Military to be taking photo shoots of a duplicate Air Force One Flying low by towers in New York is sick. How many pictures of Air Force One are already in existence?

This video shows REAL fear. REAL Terror and those mocking New Yorkers for it are SICK.

Some idiot needs an arse kicking for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn0tMMYEkQU


(edited as being peed off made me less targeted on what I wanted to say - some idiot in The Air Force needs to be sacked for this)

[1]

1. what jokes?

[TheBigotBasher]

4. Sadly one was posted right under mine.

I am NOT linking to it.

[Forkboy]

2. There's a dickhead right here on DU doing just that.

[Jeep789]

3. Why does it look like they are running toward the buildings?

I can see why they would freak out a bit.

[aquart]

7. Maybe if you don't know the target, you don't know which way to run?

[JVS]

23. Maybe if you don't know which way to run, it's time to stop running.

[reggie the dog]

68. since when was panic rational?

[smokey nj]

45. Because that's the only way to get away from the buildings.

They were probably trying to get to the residential area about two blocks west.

[Wizard777]

61. No it's not. I would buy the Terrified claim if they jumped in the water and tried to swim for it.

People can be like cattle. Easily spooked and stampeded. Go to any mall and run for an exit yelling Oh my God! Oh my God! See how many people follow you. You'll have half the mall on your heels. Stampeding is also why people get trampled to death at concerts and soccer games. The less people you have the easier it is to get them to stampede. That appeared to be the size of a large Mc Cain audience.

[LakeSamish706]

5. That was no joke as far as I am concerned.... I don't think that apologies cut it....

for New Yorkers not being told what was going on with this fly over.

[Political Heretic]

6. Meh... I'm not easily offended.

Didn't see any jokes. Don't think I would care if I did.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

42. You were what? 12-13 during 9-11?

How many people do you know that died that day?

It's not something to joke about.

[Political Heretic]

48. My grandfather died that day. And I'm 32.

People are just different.

Like I said I don't believe in the phrase "that's not something to joke about" only the phrase "that's not something to joke about with certain people or in certain contexts."

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

49. Oh, I thought you were the one who claimed to be 19 and here for "research" during the primaries

I guess I was thinking of someone else.

[Political Heretic]

50. Yeah I guess you were. My bio is readily available at link in sig

Or in my profile.

[truebrit71]

72. "it's not something to joke about" says the person with a terrrorist in her signature...

...Hello? Irony anyone?

:eyes:

[Catchawave]

8. What's creepy, blame the military ?

What's up with that?

[TheBigotBasher]

12. Who else flies duplicate 747s?

This was immoral beyond belief.

[Bucky]

9. Even this joke? (A Frenchman, a Brit, and a New Yorker get stranded on a desert island...)

... wait, wrong forum.

Nevermind

[CoffeeCat]

10. This fly-by is so incredibly off-the-charts WRONG...

...that there's no way the photo op story holds true.

Whoever did this knew exactly what they were doing. No one flies a huge 747 like that, just
grazing the NY skyline--unaware of the fear and anger they are inciting.

I don't know who did this or why---but whoever did it was making a statement--and most likely
demonstrating that they still have some pull at the DOD and at the Pentagon.

Gee, who is angry and wanting diversions right now from the torture story?

Yeah. I went there.

[B o d i]

13. On TDSWJS they said it was Joe Biden taking a joyride.

He was joking, of course.

Is it ok for New Yorkers to joke about it? Because that's where Jon Stewart lives and films his show.

[TheBigotBasher]

16. New Yorkers Yes

They went through it.

Some jumped up idiot whose reply to someone concerned about it is "get over it" NO.

To the Air Force staff that agreed this - SACK THEIR SORRY ARSE.

[dflprincess]

59. Really, Stewart's jokes are different

he was mocking the government for being so totally stupid. He showed the picture of Biden in the cockpit to demonstrate the wonders of photoshop and how a picture of Air Force 1 flying past the Statue of Liberty could have been done without scaring people to death.

I haven't been in NYC since the spring of 2001 and I nearly freaked out seeing the video of the plane yesterday and that was after I knew the story. I can't imagine what it would have been like to be on the south end of Manhattan yesterday and see that it person. Scaring people like that is not funny and it's just lucky that no one was seriously hurt (as far as we know) when the buildings emptied out.

[Lars39]

14. I agree.

If this had occurred under Bushco we would have said they were wanting to ratchet up the "terra" or distract us from something.

[napoleon_in_rags]

15. bravo.

It is a little odd when you think of somebody coming up with the idea: "I know, lets fly Air force One really low over Manhattan" and nobody thinking it was an issue big enough to tell the Mayor!

[TheBigotBasher]

18. Somewhat scarily I agree with you.

This was wrong. Very very wrong. This requires a full investigation and whoever authorised it for pictures that could have been done on computer deserves the sack.

[aquart]

20. No, they've been doing these landmark photo ops all over the country.

But whoever even thought any of them were a good useful way to spend money is a deranged idiot.

[Blue_Tires]

47. why not just make some CGI photos or something?

way cheaper...most people wouldn't notice or care anyway

[me b zola]

66. Not just the pentagon...

...but control of the airplane that not only carries the POTUS, but his family as well.

[napoleon_in_rags]

11. I wouldn't mock the people freaking out.

Its the people standing around in Manhattan who see a low flying 747 headed at them and DON'T worry that I think should have their heads checked. Jeeze.

[aquart]

17. Air Force ain't to blame. This was civilian stupid.

[TheBigotBasher]

19. It was the Air Force.

A copy of Air Force One with two fighter jets in patrol.

[Hanse]

21. I'm still upset that Aqua Teen Hunger Force is still on the air.

All these years after they shut down Boston.

[Forkboy]

28. *hangs head in shame*

That was not one of Boston's finer moments. :crazy:

[jobycom]

22. I'd settle for tombstoning those on DU who are mocking the real terror this incident created.

Not the ones who are simply clueless, but those who are mocking New Yorkers and telling them to seek therapy, etc. I've seen better people TS'd for less.

[TheBigotBasher]

24. I can not disagree with that Jobycom.

Although that does not remove my annoyance with the Air Force for this.

WTF were they thinking?

[Forkboy]

29. I am so with you there. Thunder rising needs to be shitcanned.

[TorchTheWitch]

38. I'd absolutely agree with that

No question about it whatsoever.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

43. I agree with that

[Midlodemocrat]

51. I agree with that. And, I lost friends during 9/11

and my brothers live in Manhattan; one lives on the river where the plane went in.

I certainly wouldn't mock the terror my SIL felt. She lived through 9/11 and an uninhabitable apartment.

[reggie the dog]

69. didn't lots of people already seek therapy

PTSD can take a long time to get over

[JVS]

25. That's an over-reaction, and what happened in the video is also an over-reaction

It's sad that so many years of RW terra mongering have created such a panic prone public.

[TheBigotBasher]

26. JVS - I often agree with you

but look how close to the sjyscrapers the plane was flying.

This was a disgrace and it should shame the Air Force top brass that agreed it. Why on earth was this needed? I could do exactly the same pictures for free using GIMP that they did spending $$$$$$s. Even better there would have not needed to be any horrified citizens.

[Hanse]

27. Sure, maybe the Air Force should have warned people first.

And maybe people shouldn't have assumed the worst and overreacted.

[NYC Liberal]

36. "Not assuming the worst" is, quite frankly, why more people didn't get the hell out

and far away after the first plane hit in 2001.

Of course then there was no way to know right then what would happen ... but now that it has happened, I'd be running too. Why risk it?

[BurtWorm]

46. Maybe we shouldn't be blaming victims, too.

[Forkboy]

30. If people in a different city reacted that way I might agree.

That people can't understand why New Yorkers might still be traumatized and freaked out by this kind of thing baffles me though, to be honest. It shows a real disconnect from humanity that I would expect from Freerepublic, not DU.

[Hanse]

31. Other people in other cities not panicking indicates this waste that bad of an idea.

This is more and more like the Boston incident. Those lite brite signs were in plenty of other cities, and only in Boston they panicked, called out the bomb squad, and shut the cities down.

[TheBigotBasher]

32. Forkboy I disagree.

Anyone in any City who reacted that way was entirely logical. The plane was flying at skyscraper height. This was traumatising from anywhere and not just New York.

[Forkboy]

34. Fair enough. Point taken.

I'm just guessing it hits New Yorkers even more, but you're right. It would probably freak a lot of people out elsewhere as well.

[TorchTheWitch]

39. Exactly

But I wouldn't even expect Freepers would be that disgusting.

[reggie the dog]

71. That would freak people out

if a plane flew that low over the loop in Chicago.

[emilyg]

33. 9-11 did that.

[Baby Snooks]

35. Were you in lower Manhattan on 9/11?

They don't need anyone to make them paranoid. They can remember the paranoia without anyone's help. This was unforgiveable. Mr. Obama apologized? Mr. Obama should have fired Mr. Caldera and everyone else involve in this. And if he knew, and some believe he did, he should have fired himself. He really is no longer my president after the horror the people of New York relived this morning. Apology? He can go to hell.

[Liberal_in_LA]

37. weird video. like that movie 'cloverfield'.

[Hekate]

40. Obama was furious when he was informed. Why on earth would you even think Obama would've done this?

If ever there was a time for an investigation into an utterly boneheaded (or subversive) action, this is it. You are absolutely right that the people of New York city relived horror, but absolutely wrong that Barack Obama would have had anything at all to do with the planning of such an awful thing.

Hekate

[RebelOne]

41. These fundie nutcases think it was all Obama's idea.

www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=90818

[AngryOldDem]

44. Bullshit.

All the triggers were there for a panic, especially for those who were in New York City on 9/11. The psyche never really recovers from something like that -- and the triggers yesterday were many.

Also...what about those who suffer from PTSD?

The asshole who authorized this should be canned. No questions asked.

[KoKo]

52. Someone's head needs to roll or Obama needs to be very watchful of

who set this up and make sure they are "culled from the herd" to die on their own. :-(

[spanone]

53. haven't heard a single joke...anywhere

[Forkboy]

58. 3 locked threads last night when this OP was started.

2 weren't so much a joke as tearing into New Yorkers for having the nerve to be scared by this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5548890
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5549123
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8374277

[KoKo]

62. Surprising the Pizza was never delivered...

First two posts...the last one...well what can one say...that one is just what it is...

[Forkboy]

63. One of them deserved it.

ZZ's post was wrong but fairly harmless, and he wasn't being an asshole to NYers for being freaked out like Thunder Rising was. That one deserves a napalm enema. :)

[KoKo]

65. yes

I did mean the one (Thunder) that did the first two posts should have gotten the hot pizza. ZZ is just what ZZ is...

[ecstatic]

54. I have so much respect for NYers

My hometown. But anyway, the people who saw the planes must have been TERRIFIED but now it's time to move on. President Obama apologized and promised it wouldn't happen again under his watch.

[The Backlash Cometh]

55. Ohhhhh...

I wanted to cry when I saw that. I understand why Obama was so pissed off.

[Ilsa]

56. Hell, just sack the Air Force. What do they do anymore, anyway? nt

[blaze]

57. Missed opportunity

Was it Keith? I think so. With Brian Williams

All it would have taken was a little PR.

Hey everybody!! We're gonna do a photo op. We're gonna fly over NYC with an AF1 look alike and a fighter jet to get some cool photos. Get your cameras ready and join us.

Really. It was so simple.

Hugs to any of you who had to (unnecessarily) relive the horrors of 9/11.

[Wizard777]

60. Run AWAY from the direction the planes are flying in!

[DeltaLitProf]

64. NY needs to see OBAMA's face and OBAMA's mouth . . .

. . . saying, this came from MY SHOP. I didn't stop it. I am sorry. Let me earn your forgiveness and your trust.

[crimsonblue]

67. hmm

well at least you aren't bitter....

[truebrit71]

70. What was the downside to letting people know? That's the part I don't get?

The cost maybe? Simple solution, run the Mission (not) Accomplished video as a rebuttal...

If I had seen that in ANY city, ie AF1 flying low and aggressively with fighters in hot pursuit I would have thought that something had happened to President Obama...

An amazingly stupid boneheaded idea...and President Obama needed to show how pissed off he was when asked about it yesterday...you KNOW the presstitutes are going to be ALL OVER HIM about that at tonight's presser...