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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:59 AM
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Bush Tortured Detainees To Seek Iraq-al Qaeda Link
http://newsblaze.com/story/20090427101251reye.nb/topstory.html

Published: April 27,2009

"The Bush administration applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime, according to a former senior U.S. intelligence official and a former Army psychiatrist.

Such information would've provided a foundation for one of former President George W. Bush's main arguments for invading Iraq in 2003. In fact, no evidence has ever been found of operational ties between Osama bin Laden's terrorist network and Saddam's regime.

The use of abusive interrogation - widely considered torture - as part of Bush's quest for a rationale to invade Iraq came to light as the Senate issued a major report tracing the origin of the abuses and President Barack Obama opened the door to prosecuting former U.S. officials for approving them." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/66622.html

The Bush administration claims that it subjected suspected terrorists to "enhanced interrogation techniques" (torture) to uncover terrorist plots and to save American lives. The truth is far less noble, suspected Jihadists were brutalized in the hopes they might be coerced into saying that there was an alliance between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. It's a well documented facts that victims of torture will often say what they think their tormentors want to hear.

Bush's often repeated mantra was that the invasion of Iraq was synonymous with the war on terror. This is a bald-faced lie, Saddam had no use for al-Qaeda and he would never have allowed a militant group and a possible adversary to set up shop in Iraq.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:12 AM
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1. extracting false confessions is one of the primary reasons for torturing.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:45 AM
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4. The American Inquisition; we will be a long time making amends.
Pols like the recent and current GOP idiots are illustrations of my point that the biggest problem in America is too much marketing. When we destroyed our reputation by torturing so we could sell a war for profits, marketing has gone too fucking far.

Marketing pointless products gets people into much personal financial trouble too. Marketing too thin, airbrushed models creates unhealthy self images for our young people. Marketing cigarettes helped kill how many with cancer?

Too damned much marketing when it gets to the point of throwing aside the most basic of civilized notions, that a nation obeys laws and treats other humans with at least a modicum of humanity.

Yes, we tortured to get false confessions so we could sell a fucking war. It was marketing at its worst. As a people, we need to grow beyond being so compliant to marketing.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:55 AM
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5. (Some) Advertising: Parasites living off of puss. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:13 AM
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2. Thom Hartmann says that the "political capital" Bush would have acquired from such a "connection"
between Saddam Hussein and alQuaeda would have been added to his "mandate" and the first item on the list for his "successful pResidency" was the Privitization of Social Security.

Which is an interesting theory in light of our subsequent Financial Disasters. If Torture had succeeded in making a hero of Bush and he, therefore, had succeeded in privitizing Social Security, the American Public would now be facing a decision going something like this: Should we walk away from the Robber Barons who ruined the financial future of this country and do our own thing, i.e. NO Bailouts and, thus, see Grandma & Grandpa and Mom & Dad loose what little Social Security we have left, or should we bail the banks out and, thus, avoid casting the Elderly in this country out into the streets.

The money people behind George Bush were planning on their puppet, being a War Hero and all, to privitize Social Security and thus be able to hold it HOSTAGE for the Financial Crises that they had to have known were coming sooner or later.

So Torture was not only to create an excuse for killing 1,000,000 people, but also a means by which Social Security was to be a Hostage to our Robber Barons' bailout plans.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:22 AM
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3. P.S. It sure would be interesting to look at patterns in the Lobbying Industry during certain time
frames and what sorts of priorities Republican Congressional research staff were working on.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:01 AM
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6. Another Piece In The Puzzle
No surprise in this revelation...especially when you look back on the timelines. By 2003, we had "KSM" and Abu Zabeydah in custody...the brains behind 9/11...but their torture went on long after they confessed. There was never any direct link of either of these characters to Iraq, but fit in that timeline, they sure were going to try.

We saw this with the Plame situation...cheeeney was hellbent on his Iraq war and would create the war to suit his needs. Any intel that didn't fit was ignored and surely any "confessions" would have found worked its way into the "justification.

This is more evidence that further investigations are needed....and NOW!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 10:01 AM
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7. The truth that few wish to talk about.
Torture to get information for an invasion.
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