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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:49 PM
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Crazy Fundies Alert: AFA says congress is set to protect "various" sexual orientations.....
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 07:49 PM by marmar
I wonder if that includes the sexually repressed? :think:


:freak:



Get ready, America. Congress set to make various sexual orientations legally protected.

You call is needed today!

April 27, 2009

Congress is set to give legally protected status to 30 sexual orientations, including incest. Because of pressure from homosexual groups, Congress has refused to define what is meant by sexual orientation in H.R. 1913, the "Hate Crimes" bill. This means that the 30 different sexual orientations will be federally protected classes.

To see the orientations that will be protected by the Hate Crimes bill (H.R. 1913), click here.

The U.S. House of Representatives is set to vote on H.R. 1913 in a matter of days. Right now, there is still time to kill this bill, but time is short.

Take Action!
Click Here to get the telephone number for your representative, along with suggested talking points for your call. Call your representative today to demand politely, but firmly, that he or she vote against H.R. 1913.

Please forward this to all your family and friends. You may be told this information is incorrect. If so, ask why then did the House Judiciary Committee refuse to define "sexual orientation?"

Pastors, it is time to take a stand. Share this information with your members, and ask them to call.



http://www.afa.net/hatecrimesbill2009.html





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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:52 PM
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1. 30 sexual orientations?!
Wow, I guess I need to branch out, haha.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:53 PM
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2. The fundies probably think that refers to positions...
and they're jealous!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 07:53 PM
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3. Why are these scumbags allowed to brazenly lie like this without consequence?
Why do they get away with lumping their ability to continue assaulting us to a campaign against incest? (Right, it's only one prayer...)
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:00 PM
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4. What bullshit. Here are the 30 "orientations" they claim will be protected.
Including Pedophilia. Yeah, right. I'm sure that's right there in the bill.

The AFA list of 30 orientations:

Apotemnophilia - sexual arousal associated with the stump(s) of an Amputee
Asphyxophilia - sexual gratification derived from activities that involve oxygen deprivation through hanging, strangulation, or other means
Autogynephilia - the sexual arousal of a man by his own perception of himself as a woman or dressed as a woman
Bisexual - the capacity to feel erotic attraction toward, or to engage in sexual interaction with, both males and females
Coprophilia - sexual arousal associated with feces
Exhibitionism - the act of exposing one’s genitals to an unwilling observer to obtain sexual gratification
Fetishism/Sexual Fetishism - obtaining sexual excitement primarily or exclusively from an inanimate object or a particular part of the body
Frotteurism - approaching an unknown woman from the rear and pressing or rubbing the penis against her buttocks
Heterosexuality - the universal norm of sexuality with those of the opposite sex
Homosexual/Gay/Lesbian - people who form sexual relationships primarily or exclusively with members of their own gender
Gender Identity Disorder - a strong and persistent cross-gender identification, which is the desire to be, or the insistence that one is, or the other sex, "along with" persistent discomfort about one’s assigned sex or a sense of the inappropriateness in the gender role of that sex
Gerontosexuality - distinct preference for sexual relationships primarily or exclusively with an elderly partner
Incest - sex with a sibling or parent
Kleptophilia - obtaining sexual excitement from stealing
Klismaphilia - erotic pleasure derived from enemas
Necrophilia - sexual arousal and/or activity with a corpse
Partialism - A fetish in which a person is sexually attracted to a specific body part exclusive of the person
Pedophilia - Sexual activity with a prepubescent child (generally age 13 years or younger). The individual with pedophilia must be age 16 years or older and at least 5 years older than the child. For individuals in late adolescence with pedophilia, no precise age difference is specified, and clinical judgment must be used; both the sexual maturity of the child and the age difference must be taken into account; the adult may be sexually attracted to opposite sex, same sex, or prefer either
Prostitution - the act or practice of offering sexual stimulation or intercourse for money
Sexual Masochism - obtaining sexual gratification by being subjected to pain or humiliation
Sexual Sadism - the intentional infliction of pain or humiliation on another person in order to achieve sexual excitement
Telephone Scatalogia - sexual arousal associated with making or receiving obscene phone calls
Toucherism - characterized by a strong desire to touch the breast or genitals of an unknown woman without her consent; often occurs in conjunction with other paraphilia
Transgenderism - an umbrella term referring to and/or covering transvestitism, drag queen/king, and transsexualism
Transsexual - a person whose gender identity is different from his or her anatomical gender
Transvestite - a person who is sexually stimulated or gratified by wearing the clothes of the other gender
Transvestic Fetishism - intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving cross-dressing
Urophilia - sexual arousal associated with urine
Voyeurism - obtaining sexual arousal by observing people without their consent when they are undressed or engaged in sexual activity
Zoophilia/Bestiality - engaging in sexual activity with animals

:patriot:
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:04 PM
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6. Frotteurism !?! Transvestic Fetishism !?! I didn't learn about these in health class.
I learned about them from AFA list.

Thanks guys. Let me know when the next edition comes out!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:41 PM
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31. And they claim WE'RE obsessed with sexual "deviancy."
Wow.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:06 PM
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7. Boy , that's a lot of "research"
I wonder if there's a "Familyresearchoplilia"?

Scratch that, I don't want to know.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:36 PM
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8. That's the short list. I didn't see Plushie-philia listed, for example.
You think I'm kidding?

I don't know what this is, but it's "plushie":



Tissue dispenser from WalMart:



And even in Canada!!!:



:P
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:01 PM
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10. You think I was raised in an FLD compound?
I know about that stuff. Ever since the first days of USENET.

Don't understand it, but I know about it.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:20 PM
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13. I don't get it either.
That and infantilism are just way out there.

Not that I "get it" about most of the rest of the thirty.

BTW, I just read the full text of the bill in question, H.R. 1913, the "Hate Crimes" bill.

What a stretch to extend "sexual orientation" to include anything and everything that appears in the DSM-IV.

From the AFA:
"The Hate Crime law, HR-1913, will make 30 sexual orientations federally-protected. The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has published 30 such sexual orientations that, because of Congress's refusal to define "sexual orientation," will be protected under this legislation. These 30 orientations are listed in the APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), which is used by physicians, psychologists, social workers, nurses, and psychiatrists throughout the U.S. It is considered the dictionary of mental disorders. Those 30 sexual orientations include behaviors that are felonies or misdemeanors in most states."

:patriot:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:03 PM
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11. Republicans are familiar with most of those already.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:08 PM
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12. Good God, those fundies spend a lot of time thinking about sex.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:02 AM
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20. If they would spend a minute fraction of the time actually HAVING sex
that they do THINKING about sex...
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:26 PM
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14. so most of these "orientations" are just fetishes
they forgot a few :D

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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:59 AM
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22. Kleptophilia - obtaining sexual excitement from stealing
This must be why the government's been so lenient towards the finance industry. They don't want to discriminate against their sexual orientation.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:03 AM
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23. DUzy!!!! n/t
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:01 PM
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5. Scare tactics. Fear mongering. Hate mongering. This is the kinda bs that i killing the repuke party.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:56 PM
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9. Am I missing something from the reichwing lie machine?
This is Federal hate crime legislation, which includes sexual orientation, as far as I know for the first time (perhaps a legal beagel type can verify that)I don't see 30 exotic anythings mentioned. Drat! :evilgrin:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1913/show

My Vote All Votes
Aye Ayes:20
Nay Nays:220

Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009
To provide Federal assistance to States, local jurisdictions, and Indian tribes to prosecute hate crimes, and for other purposes.
current 111st session of congress
Other Bill Titles (1 more)
Hide Other Bill Titles
Official: To provide Federal assistance to States, local jurisdictions, and Indian tribes to prosecute hate crimes, and for other purposes. as introduced.
4/2/2009--Introduced.
Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 - Authorizes the Attorney General to provide technical, forensic, prosecutorial, or other assistance in the criminal investigation or prosecution of any crime that:
(1) constitutes a crime of violence under federal law or a felony under state, local, or Indian tribal law; and
(2) is motivated by prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of the victim, or is a violation of the state, local, or tribal hate crime laws. Directs the Attorney General to give priority for assistance to crimes committed by offenders who have committed crimes in more than one state and to rural jurisdictions that have difficulty covering the extraordinary investigation or prosecution expenses. Authorizes the Attorney General to award grants to assist state, local, and Indian law enforcement agencies with such extraordinary expenses. Directs the Office of Justice Programs to:
(1) work closely with funded jurisdictions to ensure that the concerns and needs of all affected parties are addressed; and
(2) award grants to state and local programs designed to combat hate crimes committed by juveniles. Amends the federal criminal code to prohibit willfully causing bodily injury to any person because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of such person. Amends the Hate Crimes Statistics Act to expand data collection and reporting requirements under such Act to include:
(1) crimes manifesting prejudice based on gender and gender identity; and
(2) hate crimes committed by and against juveniles. Declares that nothing in this Act shall be construed to prohibit the exercise of constitutionally-protected free speech.

And then this: :rofl: They must be spitting mad.
..........
In the News
April 28, 2009
Kennedy introduces hate crimes bill in Senate

...
Rules Committee approved a resolution allotting 80 minutes of debate time on the House floor for its version of the hate crimes legislation, HR 1913. ...

Was this article useful? Yes or No Source: Washington Blade

Did you find this article useful? Your opinion counts - together, we're finding the very best news and blog coverage about Congress available on the web.


April 28, 2009
Gay couples marry in Iowa, hate crimes protection advances in Congress

The bill, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, HR 1913, appears to have a better chance of enactment this time, after having been blocked...




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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:41 PM
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15. 30???
Wait wait wait...



1. Likes opposite gender
2. Likes same gender
3. Likes both genders
4-30. ???


That covers my entire porn collection. So either a)I have a massive, massive gap in my collection, or b) AFA is full of fearmongering bullshit.


Tough choice, but I'm thinking
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:59 PM
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19. I'm surprised at how many "special interests" were left off the list.
Edited on Tue Apr-28-09 11:59 PM by NYC_SKP
They need to do better research.

Where are Plushies and the Balloon Fetishists?

And HannaBarbaraphiliacs?

What about them??? :cry:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:38 PM
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30. Plushie... wasn't there some right-wing Morality Police dude last election...
...that turns out was a Furry and had adult Furry drawings all over his home page?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:00 PM
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32. Oh, was there??? Too Funny!!!
I Googled, but couldn't find anything, for anyone arrested as you describe.

I did, however, find that there is a wiki for furries!

http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Burned_Furs

Something for everyone, gotta love the Internet!

:toast:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:18 PM
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33. Not arrested, but there was a hububaloo about it
The Moral Values critic partaking of Furry sexuality, or whatever.


Can't find it, didn't save it. :shrug:


Ah well...
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:44 PM
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16. The AFA's list failed to include ignorgasmaphilia:
the arousal inherent in the act of telling other people how to conduct their sex lives.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:47 PM
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17. 30 different sexual orientations ...
... including incest.... will be federally protected classes. :wtf:




The ultra right killing a hate crimes bill. SSDD. :(
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 11:49 PM
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18. They are drawing a line that isn't there. H.R. 1913 includes "sexual orientation"...
‘(2) OFFENSES INVOLVING ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED RELIGION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY, OR DISABILITY-
‘(A) IN GENERAL- Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, in any circumstance described in subparagraph (B), willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person--

AFA takes the term "sexual orientation" from the bill, then goes over to the DMS IV which lists "sexual dysfunctions" and includes some of those 30 behaviors/fetishes.
http://www.psychnet-uk.com/clinical_psychology/clinical_psychology_sexual_dysfunction4_paraphilias.htm

It's bullshit, of course, but people buy it.

There's more background to this, check wikipedia's entry for DMS III and IV for some history on the inclusion of homosexuality as a disorder.

That's their connector.

:mad:
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:14 AM
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21. Incest is a sexual orientation?
Incest is a crime. You mean it's not my imagination that fundie Christians sound like they're stupid?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:48 AM
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24. It's not your imagination. They think that lovers of children and horses will be protected.
I think they really think that! :wtf:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 08:28 PM
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34. No, they do sound that stupid
The utter seriousness with which they say it might be throwing you off, though...


Wingnets, wingnuts, wingnuts...
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:52 AM
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25. Lunatics
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:53 AM
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26. I feel like Ive missed everything! 30? I had no idea
I live a boring life.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:00 PM
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27. I can help.
:P
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:18 PM
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28. thanks hon! Im as old as methuselah
but you sure made me smile. :)
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:27 PM
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29. Number 13:
"Gerontosexuality - distinct preference for sexual relationships primarily or exclusively with an elderly partner"

There ya go! Something for everyone!

:loveya:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:16 PM
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35. I'm 56 - does that mean that EVERYTHING I do is in that one?!!!
Edited on Sat May-02-09 01:16 PM by TankLV
and what about my partner - he's only about four months younger...

I read somewhere that when you qualify for the IHOP "Senior Specials" then your "in"...

but I could be wrong...

boy have I got a lot to catch up on...
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:58 PM
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36. They are perverts
I would hate to be the person who had to clean up the jizz puddle created from the circle jerk they had doing that "research"
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:24 PM
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37. Everywhere you look
the hypocritical fake religionists spread their hate.
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