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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:31 PM
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A thought on the value of single-payer health care
Ok, I'm going to ask a question.

Is it more expensive and less efficient for Americans to:

a) pay for national defense on their own?

or

b) pay into a common system that takes that money and applies it to a defense system that covers all Americans?


If you chose A, you're right. In fact, it would be impossible for an individual to provide for national defense on a personal level. It's fair to say that what we receive in return is more valuable than what we pay into the system. But how does this apply to health care?

The point is, the same ideas apply to universal (single payer) health care. If we all put in, what we received in return (preventative care that leads to a healthier, more productive society) is more valuable than what we initially give. And, unlike national defense, which can be intangible at best and contentious at worst, health care is something that we can all see a return on in our personal lives.

It just makes sense, so why don't we do it?

The Public Servant
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:36 PM
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1. It would also lower your car insurance rates
A sizable percentage of your insurance bill is for medical coverage. With USP, it's not needed anymore.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:44 PM
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3. That's an interesting thought.
Do you have any figures on just how much of auto insurance it is?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:46 PM
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6. If you look at any auto policy it's spelled out. right there. It depends on whether a
person gets the minimum mandated by law, or pays more for higher coverage.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:25 PM
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9. oh yeah.... I was having a durh moment ;)
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:01 PM
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7. I think on mine, it's about 1/3 of my premium
But it would depend on car, zip code, and coverage level.



Another thing... no coverage limit! :-)
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:44 PM
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4. Very true. It would also lower medical malpractice rates, since a sizable amount of
providers insurance is for medical coverage for patients who require future medical care to correct the medical problems mistake or negligence caused.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:41 PM
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2. Done right, it could bail out the Automakers. Think of how much they pay for medical.
Coverage of retirees and current employees.

And how many other industries could become solvent once again.

After all, aren't these among the highest costs?

And aren't these among the reasons other countries industries more competitive?

It just might be in the works, people.

:patriot:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 08:45 PM
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5. Small business owners should love it. Employees will cost less to hire and keep.
They can also cover themselves and businesses are less likely to go under due to health problems of the owner. The *only* industry that it doesn't help is the insurance industry. Unfortunately, the financial industry has much too much money right now and are very very greedy.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-28-09 09:05 PM
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8. kick kick!.. This is WAAY more popular that corpomedia is letting on..
They get huge bucks from health industry advertisers... as do even our own dear Dem congresscritters..
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