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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:32 PM
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Administration Seeks Equalized Sentencing for Crack and Powder Cocaine
Administration Seeks Equalized Sentencing for Crack and Powder Cocaine


The Obama administration called on Congress Wednesday to equalize federal sentences for crack and powdered cocaine offenses.

Under current law, the possession of five grams of crack triggers a five-year prison sentence, while it takes 500 grams of powdered cocaine to bring on the same sentence.

The lower trigger for crack has disproportionately affected African Americans.

“The administration believes Congress’s goal should be to completely eliminate the sentencing disparity,” Lanny A. Breuer, the assistant attorney general who oversees the Justice Department’s criminal division, told the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Drugs.

The announcement wasn’t a surprise. President Obama endorsed treating the two forms of cocaine equally as a candidate, and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. as a senator sponsored legislation aimed at doing so.

But the administration’s endorsement adds new impetus for action, a long-time goal of the Congressional Black Caucus among others.

more...

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=5&docID=cqmidday-000003106130
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:34 PM
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1. Weird that the story doesn't say whether they'll raise the crack standard or lower the powder one.
n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:37 PM
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4. My guess is the penalty for being found with crack will
be close to the penalty for coke. The CBC was looking for a more equitable penalty.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:57 PM
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10. Yeah, but that's not my question.
Right now, it's five years for 5 grams of crack, or 500 grams of coke. I know that they want the two to be equitable, but does that mean they'll make it five years for 500 grams of crack, or five years for 5 grams of coke?

Or will they reach some "happy middle," say 100 grams or 250 grams for either?

Inquiring drug runners want to know! :P

Kidding aside, it's more just idle curiosity than anything else. It just seems to be an important question, and yet the story doesn't answer it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:01 PM
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11. Yeah, why all the interest?
:rofl:

I have no idea, but if I find an answer, you'll be the first to know!
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:42 PM
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12. And five hundred grams of coke will make1500 grams of crack.
Crack is nothing more than a garbage freebased coke with added baking soda. If anything it should be the other way around.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:35 PM
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20. WHERE did you get that supposed information?
Freebase cocaine has a lower molecular weight than cocaine hydrochloride, so crack should be (a little) more concentrated, not less. The baking soda is not incorporated into the "merchandise", it is dissolved out into water.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:37 PM
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5. Judging by the reasons for the complaints, I'm guessing they'll raise the crack standard.
Had they complained, "we're letting powder users off too easy," I'd think that would imply they would increase the penalties for powder. However, since they're complaining that the laws are unfairly harsh on crack users, I'd imagine they'll lower the penalties for crack to fall in line with powder.

I might be mistaken, of course, but it would be strange otherwise.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:36 PM
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2. Thank god.
This was blatant institutionalized racism.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:47 PM
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21. It's a case of shifting standards.
And convenient amnesia.

A lot of people have forgotten why the difference in sentencing was instituted or never knew. The claim was that "white America" was letting the "black community" die in a sea of violence and addiction resulting from crack use. Hyperbole or not, *not* having harsher penalties was seen as racist abandonment of the black community.

Of course the crack-cocaine laws disproportionately affected blacks. That was the goal, their purpose. And they were instituted partly out of a law-enforcement approach to solving a problem, and partly to avoid being called racist.

Now, 20 years later, the problem's moderated but the laws remain. The disproportionate affect is now judged to be racist, so people assume the laws were instituted out of racism. Some of the same people saying the laws are racist called for them to be instituted. Talk about a Catch-22.

The same thing is happening in quick-time with loan policies. In the mid-90s there was pressure to ban redlining, to help people with lower credit ratings and higher credit risk to get mortgages. Such were disproportionately non-white. Well, things got carried away in the '00s and went to hell in '07 and '08 because of bundling high-risk loans, which no longer were offered against the lender's will and no longer offered primarily to minorities. After all, if it's ok for Latinos and blacks, it's ok for everybody. So lenders restricted credit and raised the requirements for mortgages. As early as February I was hearing cries that since minorities still have lower credit ratings, on average, that the more restrictive requirements constitute racism. We're back in '95, apparently, pushing lenders to make higher-risk loans and ignoring the lesson from '07 and '08. The difference is that the crack-cocaine 'epidemic' has moderated so the difference in the laws has outlived its usefulness, while the political stupidity of calling for lots of high-risk loans continues unabated.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:37 PM
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3. good
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:38 PM
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6.  I can't believe this hasn't been done already
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:08 PM
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16. Actually several things have been done already. This is the last step.
The 100:1 ratio and mandatory minimums in the federal sentencing guidlines have been adjusted previously....

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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:38 PM
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7. Good
A completely racist policy that needed to go.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:39 PM
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8. But... but.... That'll COMPLETELY invalidate Grandmaster Flash's song White Lines!
Won't somebody please think of the rappers?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 01:56 PM
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9. Ha! Whoever the heck that is.
I missed that musical movement, and am not sorry.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 07:55 PM
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22. (facepalm)
"A street kid gets arrested, gonna do some time
He got out three years from now just to commit more crime
A businessman is caught with 24 kilos
He’s out on bail and out of jail
And that’s the way it goes
Raah!"

The song is a damn public service announcement - from the 70s even.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=white+lines&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:58 PM
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13. Error: You've already recommended that thread.
Damn I hate when that happens.

Don
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:00 PM
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14. I did a major report on this last year. Things are getting better re: the 100:1 ratio
But this is the next (and hopefully final) step in rectifying a HUGE and sad chapter of our American criminal justice history....

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:03 PM
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15. Off to the greatest pages.
Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:10 PM
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17. Here's more information from the policy analysis report:

Contemporary Trends in Sentencing Policy

Several recent Supreme Court decisions have impacted the structure and function of both the federal sentencing guidelines mandatory minimum sentencing laws. In Apprendi v. New Jersey of 2000, the Court ruled that the constitutional right to trial by jury prohibited judges from increasing sentences “based on facts other than those decided by jury beyond a reasonable doubt” (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-478.ZO.html). Elizabeth Olson (2002) explains the decision further, stating that legislatures have enacted a series of statutes which take authority away from juries to determine certain elements of a crime “beyond a reasonable doubt” and instead give that power to judges who may use a lower standard of proof (“preponderance of the evidence”) in determining sentencing factors (p. 812). Olson writes:

Apprendi is the most definitive statement in a quarter-century of Supreme Court decisions assessing the limits on a legislature's authority to define criminal offenses in ways that circumvent the constitutional protections guaranteed to criminal defendants (P. 812).

Indeed, Justice John Stevens, writing for the majority, established the rule prescribing the manner in which legislatures could enact laws effecting sentencing: “It is unconstitutional for a legislature to remove from the jury the assessment of facts that increase the prescribed range of penalties to which a criminal defendant is exposed. It is equally clear that such facts must be established by proof beyond a reasonable doubt” (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-478.ZO.html). Olson argues that the same criteria established to limit judges’ ability to increase sentences due to facts not presented to jury for proof beyond a reasonable doubt, should apply to mandatory minimum sentencing laws which automatically prescribe sentences higher than the statutory norm (Olson, 2002).

In United States v. Booker, 2005, the Court established that federal sentencing guidelines be viewed as advisory only, rather than compulsory for judges. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/ supct/html/04-104.ZS.html). Nekima Levy-Pounds (2007) writes, “The Court's ruling, in effect, challenged Congress to overhaul the federal sentencing guidelines and to restore judicial discretion to sentencing determinations” (p. 285). Prior to the ruling, federal appeals courts did not have the power to review sentences that were outside the range of the federal guidelines, and district judges were required to give sentences within the guideline range regardless of special circumstances (United States Sentencing Commission, 2006). The ruling was, in part, based on the previous Apprendi v. New Jersey decision (http://www.dorsey.com/64/Resources /Detail.aspx?pub=291).

In 2007’s Rita v. United States, the Supreme Court provided clarification on how the federal court of appeals should function in light of its United States v. Booker decision. In an 8-1 decision, the Court granted sentencing judges more flexibility in determining an appropriate sentence, by affirming that they are not bound by an appellate court’s application of the “presumption of reasonableness” which assumes that sentences that fall within federal sentencing guidelines are automatically fair (http://www.famm.org/ExploreSentencing /InTheCourts/LegalNews/Ritadecision62107.aspx).

Also in late 2007, the Supreme Court issued a very important ruling in the debate over the 100:1 crack to power cocaine ratio. FAMM writes, “In a 7-2 ruling in Kimbrough v. United States, the United State Supreme Court decided that judges may consider the unfairness of the 100-to-1 ratio between crack cocaine and powder cocaine sentences and may impose a sentence below the crack guideline in cases where the guideline sentence is too severe” (http://www.famm .org/PressRoom/PressReleases/SupremeCourtaffirmsdiscretionincrackcases.aspx). While the inequitable mandatory minimum sentencing remains the law, the ruling is another step in the direction of greater judicial discretion to consider the context of a case and fairly apply sentences accordingly.

Recent changes outside of the Courts also affect sentencing guidelines. On November 1, 2007, the United States Sentencing Commission reduced the sentencing guidelines for crack cocaine offenses. The Sentencing Commission has recommended changes to the 100:1 ratio between crack and power cocaine sentencing guidelines four times previously, but Congress declined to take legislative action as a remedy (Marks, 2007).

FAMM states that crack cocaine sentences imposed after November 1, 2007 will be an average of 16 months shorter under these changes. This change was later made retroactive albeit with some critical limitations. First, FAMM reports that the Bureau of Prisons would file a motion with the judge requesting a sentence reduction under the new guidelines; however, the judge is under no obligation to grant the motion. Additionally, mandatory minimum laws remain in effect. Thus, if a person was sentenced under the 100:1 ratio to the mandatory minimum for crack cocaine, the revised sentencing guidelines would not change that (Families Against Mandatory Minimums, 2007).

The combined effect of Supreme Court decisions and changes to federal sentencing guidelines puts pressure on the United States Congress to address the subject of federal mandatory minimum sentencing laws, particularly with respect to the crack and powder cocaine disparities. Senator Jeff Sessions (Republican, Alabama) introduced the Drug Sentencing Policy Reform Act in 2007. According to the Drug Policy Alliance, “This bill would reduce the disparity between crack and powder cocaine sentences to 20:1. It would take 20 and 200 grams of crack to trigger 5 and 10 year mandatory minimum sentences, respectively” (http://www.drugpolicy.org/library/factsheets/raceand thedr/crack_cocaine.cfm). The bill would also reduce the mandatory minimum sentence for a simple crack possession charge from five years to one year (http://www.washington watch.com/bills/show/110_SN_1383.html). Currently, the bill remains in committee.

At the state level, numerous states have made significant changes to mandatory sentencing laws. Nicholas Turner and Daniel Wilhelm (2002) note that 15 states took action to lessen strict mandatory sentencing laws (p. 74). They list some examples which are worth quoting at length:
Connecticut, Indiana and North Dakota repealed mandatory minimum sentences relating to some nonviolent offenses. Mississippi pared back truth-in-sentencing requirements and joined Louisiana, Texas and Virginia in expanding the number of inmates eligible for early release and loosening release rates. Iowa granted judges greater discretion in sentencing certain felony offenders. Alabama and New Mexico eased habitual offender laws. Wisconsin passed a law allowing some successfully rehabilitated offenders to petition a court, with the prosecution's consent, to reduce their sentences (p. 74).

In light of these contemporary developments, the question becomes: are the politics of sentencing changing?

Turner and Wilhelm describe three factors that might suggest they are. First, violent and property crime rates have fallen dramatically. Turner and Wilhelm state that between 1993 and 2000, “violent crimes decreased by 44.1 percent … homicides by 61 percent property crimes declined by 44.2 percent” (p. 75). According to the United States Department of Justice this trend has continued through 2005 (http://www. ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/4meastab .htm). Falling crime rates provide political cover for elected officials to reassess sentencing laws and change them without fear of being labeled as soft on crime.

Second and likely connected to the previous observations, the public is less concerned about crime as a political issue. According to Turner and Wilhelm, “a 1994 Pew Research Center for the People and Press survey found that 29% of respondents thought that crime was the most important issue facing their communities. By 2001, only 12 percent gave the same answer” (p. 75). More importantly, public attitudes about sentencing itself are changing. A poll by Peter D. Hart Research Associates showed that in 1994, 42 percent of Americans favored harsher sentencing as the primary mechanism for combating crime. But by 2001, only 32 percent agreed, while 65 percent preferred to address root social causes underlying crime (Turner & Wilhelm, 2002).

Third, financial pressures associated with high incarceration rates affect both public opinion and the attitudes of elected officials. In October of 2007, Senator Jim Webb of Virginia prepared a briefing for a Joint Economic Committee hearing exploring the increase in the United States prison population. On the subject of the high economic cost of the American prison system, Webb wrote, “In 2006, states spent an estimated $2 billion on prison construction, three times the amount they were spending fifteen years earlier. The combined expenditures of local governments, state governments, and the federal government for law enforcement and corrections total over $200 billion annually” (http://webb.senate.gov/pdf/prisonfactsheet4.html). With many states experiencing budget shortfalls and a looming nationwide economic recession, the strain of an incarceration-first-and-only approach to crime is being called into question for very practical reasons.


Source: me and two colleagues :)
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:11 PM
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18. LOL I thought they already did this?
Anyways GOOD policy if we are going to keep both substances illegal.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:16 PM
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19. the "drug war" continues, then, but with more "equitable terms."
whatever.
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