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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:06 PM
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To the Sen Spector haters
With the announcement of Justice Souter's retirement, I think Obama's plan is clear... and thus the necessity for Spector's vote. He will fall in line - bet on it. It will truly be a joyous day of freeper heads exploding.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:08 PM
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1. Doesn't matter if he does (and he won't)
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 11:09 PM by Political Heretic
There are about 20 other conservadems who can't be counted on to vote with the party.

EDIT - I should say, he won't of Obama nominates a good judge, i.e. an actual liberal constitutional scholar
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:16 PM
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4. yea, the DLCer's are a PITA
but they'll fall in line for a SCOTUS nominee - that's why Rahm was hired. And you can count on Spector's vote... there was a deal. Dems gave up a lot to a guy with no bargaining power - it was to secure his SCOTUS vote.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:17 AM
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19. This makes Rendell quite powerful. In many ways he has a lot of say in who the next
SC Justice is, since he has a lot of say as to whether Specter retains a cleared path to the Dem nomination.

And I'm not sure that's such a good thing in terms of who the selection is.

I guess we will see.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:12 PM
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2. The only area where I would expect LESS cooperation from Specter than judicial appointments
...would be a TRUE investigation into the assassination of JFK.

(Because his track record on both is shitty)

In fact I seem to remember Arlen asking President Obama to re-appoint a bunch of Chimp flunkie judges even before Opie Roberts could administer the correct oath of office.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:12 PM
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3. It's pretty hard to take you seriously if you can't even spell his name correctly.
That's just embarrassing.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:18 PM
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5. Spelling smack = no valid arguement. n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:27 PM
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7. No, seriously. If you're going to start a thread about a person in the news, whose name is
ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE, it's just pathetic to not manage to spell it correctly.

Just say "oops" and edit your post instead of complaining about someone pointing out that you spelled it wrong. :eyes:
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:33 PM
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9. If he had been polite, I gladly would have.
But since he was an asshole, he can blow me.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:37 PM
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10. That's your polite right there.
I pointed out an error, and you want to sexually assault me.

Nice one.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:39 PM
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12. You reap what you sow.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:46 PM
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13. Fail.
You called me an asshole.

Instead of resorting to schoolyard insults, you should reinforce your argument.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:51 PM
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14. Why? You have no counter-arguement,
... only spelling insults. Very weak...
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:18 PM
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6. Oh c'mon!
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 11:20 PM by liberalmuse
Dude, what's embarrassing is berating strangers for an honest spelling mistake on a message board. :eyes:

What's up with the rapidly escalating fuckwaddery in the past couple of weeks? My ignore list is starting to blow. Be nice, people.

On edit: So the grammar police don't show up.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:58 AM
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21. +1
lol "fuckwaddery". :P
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:57 AM
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20. Just an fyi.
When pointing out spelling errors, courtesy suggests this subject line:

"pssst."

Followed by the reply, "check your spelling", or some such.

Anything else screams of snark, I think you'd agree.

Of course, if you mean to snark or disagree with the OP, then all's fair.

Just sayin'.

:donut:
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:32 PM
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8. I'm not a "hater", but I pretty much know we can't count on him.
If he changed parties for no other reason than fear he wouldn't make it out of the GOP primary (and after all these years....) the fun part for him will be competing in a Democratic primary.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:38 PM
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11. A Dem was going to win that election regardless.
He is on the Judiary Committee, his vote and sway was needed. Yes, most of the time he can't be counted on, but I think in this instance it can. Remember, the Dems promised not to run a primary candidate against him - if he doesn't vote for a SCOTUS nominee, that deal can be cancelled and he'll lose his precious Senate seat.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:59 PM
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16. I hope you're right--I'm currently miffed about his stated
non-support for Dawn Johnsen for OLC (he's heard from me--or rather, his office's e-mail in-box has, a bit.)
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:10 AM
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18. Overused cliche', but true... Obama= chess, Reps=checkers.
I think this was a well planned and beautifully executed move. Yes, Specter's going to be a pain in the ass most of the time - but in this case I think a very crafty deal was swung.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:56 PM
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15. Another LIEberman,
yay. How much of your own money are you willing to put on your assertion?

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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:06 AM
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17. True, but I disagree.
Lieberman won his election, is caucusing with the Dems b/c his vote is needed - he was bargaining from a position of strength. Specter (note correct spelling for the spelling nazis)was certainly going to lose his primary, and a Dem was highly likely to win the general. Spector had nothing to offer the Dems, yet they agreed not to fund a primary opponent against him and allowed him to keep his seniority. Why give up so much? Logical answer - they needed his vote and position on the Judiary Committee for a SCOTUS nominee. Still want to bet?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:20 AM
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22. Again, how much of your money are you willing to put up? n/t
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 04:07 AM
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24. $20 says Specter votes for cloture and the nominee that comes out of committee. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 02:24 AM
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23. Specter.
But yes, that's probably part of the package, and where Biden was going when he "recruited" the guy. I'm guessing they want him to get on board with health care votes, too--given he's a cancer survivor.
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