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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:30 AM
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Jack Kemp On Barack Obama
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Jack Kemp on Barack Obama

Posted by Christophe on Saturday, May 2nd, 2009 at at 9:47 p.m.

Buzz Newsroom was exclusive on the Death of Jack Kemp at 73. To look back, we found the below interesting, a conversation from Jack Kemp on Barack Obama:

A Letter to My Grandchildren (from Jack Kemp)

November 12, 2008

Dear Kemp grandchildren — all 17 of you, spread out from the East Coast to the West Coast, and from Wheaton College in Illinois, to Wake Forest University in North Carolina:
My first thought last week upon learning that a 47-year-old African-American Democrat had won the presidency was, “Is this a great country or not?”

You may have expected your grandfather to be disappointed that his friend John McCain lost (and I was), but there’s a difference between disappointment over a lost election and the historical perspective of a monumental event in the life of our nation.

Let me explain. First of all, the election was free, fair and transformational, in terms of our democracy and given the history of race relations in our nation.
What do I mean?

Just think, a little over 40 years ago, blacks in America had trouble even voting in our country, much less thinking about running for the highest office in the land.
A little over 40 years ago, in some parts of America, blacks couldn’t eat, sleep or even get a drink of water using facilities available to everyone else in the public sphere.
We are celebrating, this year, the 40th anniversary of our Fair Housing Laws, which helped put an end to the blatant racism and prejudice against blacks in rental housing and homeownership opportunities.

As an old professional football quarterback, in my days there were no black coaches, no black quarterbacks, and certainly no blacks in the front offices of football and other professional sports. For the record, there were great black quarterbacks and coaches — they just weren’t given the opportunity to showcase their talent. And pro-football (and America) was the worse off for it.

I remember quarterbacking the old San Diego Chargers and playing for the AFL championship in Houston. My father sat on the 50-yard line, while my co-captain’s father, who happened to be black, had to sit in a small, roped-off section of the end zone. Today, we can’t imagine the NFL without the amazing contributions of blacks at every level of this great enterprise.

- snip -

The party of Lincoln, (i.e., the GOP), needs to rethink and revisit its historic roots as a party of emancipation, liberation, civil rights and equality of opportunity for all. On the other hand, the party of Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy and now Obama must put forth an agenda that understands that getting American growing again will require both Keynesian and classical incentive-oriented (supply-side) economic ideas. But there’s time for political and economic advice in a later column (or two).

Let me end with an equally great historical irony of this election. Next year, as Obama is sworn in as our 44th president, we will celebrate the 200th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth. I’m serving, along with former Rep. Bill Gray of Pennsylvania, on the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Board to help raise funds for this historic occasion. President-elect Obama’s honoring of Lincoln in many of his speeches reminds us of how vital it is to elevate these ideas and ideals to our nation’s consciousness and inculcate his principles at a time of such great challenges and even greater opportunities.

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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:36 AM
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1. Jack Kemp also supported trade and outsourcing policies that
shipped millions of jobs out of our country and destroyed the lives of millions of American working people.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:39 AM
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2. Yeah.
He was a Republican.

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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:49 AM
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3. So did lots of Democrats.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:55 AM
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4. Go back and look at the votes.
About 80% of the Dems were against NAFTA and GATT. Look at the votes for CAFTA, which Kemp supported as if it were the best thing since sliced bread -- it was over 90% Dems against. The repukes had to keep The House in session almost all night and into the early morning hours to pass that crap.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:57 AM
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7. Who pushed NAFTA with all they had? Bill Clinton & Al Gore
And Ross Perot was right about NAFTA and Al Gore was wrong.
Just the way it is.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:01 AM
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9. Sadly, Clinton/Gore jumped into bed with Gingrich and Dole on that one.
So did Bill Bradley and a few other Dems. Novermber of 1993 and 1994 were sad days for true Democrats.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:01 AM
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25. Instead, we've lost our manufacturing base to...CHINA. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:01 AM
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8. Who signed it into law?
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:04 AM
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10. George H.W. Bush & Carla Hills negotiated that crap, and Bill Clinton
signed that crap. It was a sad day for me.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:06 AM
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11. 20% is a lot on legislation like that.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:09 AM
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13. I guess that justifies it then.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 02:10 AM by Elwood P Dowd
Jack Kemp is God now because 20% of the bought-and-paid-for DINOS supported his insanity.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:20 AM
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15. What the hell are you talking about?
Jack Kemp wasn't anywhere near as influential in regards to NAFTA as Bill Clinton or Al Gore.

David
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:26 AM
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16. He was all over the news in 1993 and 1994 pushing NAFTA and GATT.
CSPAN, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. Just how short is your memory? He told more lies about free trade than Clinton and Gore combined. He, along with Phil Gramm, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Bill Bradley, and others were on some network almost every day promoting that crap.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:44 AM
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17. I disagree.
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:58 AM
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18. From his on bio....
"Kemp championed several Chicago school and supply-side economics issues: economic growth, free markets, free trade, tax simplification and lower tax rates on both employment and investment income. He was a long-time proponent of the flat tax."

IOW, he supported the rich and to hell with the working people. Case closed!
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:04 AM
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19. Let's not leave out the good stuff.
and was the first lawmaker to popularize enterprise zones, which he supported to foster entrepreneurship and job creation and expand homeownership among public housing tenants. During his career, he sometimes sounded like a liberal Democrat: he supported affirmative action and rights for illegal immigrants.

So maybe it's a little more gray than the black and white that you see.

David
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:22 AM
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28. Everyone's calling Kemp a "true blue" conservative. He has referred to himself as that.
But he was my boss when he headed HUD and singlehandedly transformed the way we think about urban policy. The enterprise zones, HOPE VI programs were genius and are still effective housing policies. I'm shocked if he's a conservative because he sure didn't behave that way. I always saw him as a moderate. Let's look at it this way: would today's cultist Republican Party accept a "conservative" Jack Kemp into the fold? I don't think so.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:33 AM
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29. Excellent observation from someone that had direct knowledge of the man.
This is the type of person the GOP is lacking now. I am a die hard Democrat but I welcome 2 sides of an issue if it is given with a fair view from both sides. The letter and your knowledge gives us an incite into the real person Jack Kemp was without the GOP label behind his name. Thank you.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:55 AM
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5. Exactly. Kemp was light years ahead of the GOP in race and tolerance issues -nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:25 AM
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22. True but he was a key supporter of supply side economics
I offer sympathy to his family
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:09 AM
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12. Every politician makes decisions that adversely effect people
If you think that import replacement/protectionist trade measures are going to do any good for this country, you're mistaken. As far as a republican goes...this guy was about as much as we could ask for.

Let him rest in peace
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 02:13 AM
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14. Bullshit!
Edited on Sun May-03-09 02:13 AM by Elwood P Dowd
We are destroying our country with the policies you support. Just how many millions of jobs do you want us to export so filthy rich investors and CEOs can line their pockets with gold and pollute our planet?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:34 AM
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Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:56 AM
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6. Beautiful letter. RIP, Jack Kemp. -nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 03:57 AM
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21. Great letter
Edited on Sun May-03-09 03:58 AM by fujiyama
He never seemed like a nut case. I don't agree with much of his economic ideas, but I guess I could still respect him...

I don't understand the nastiness from some on this thread. It's not like he was Jesse Helms...
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:31 AM
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23. is this a "deathbed conversion"? good luck with that, pal.
Edited on Sun May-03-09 07:23 AM by stlsaxman
Jack, it would have meant more if you actually did something while you were alive.

on edit: all the pundits are calling him a "bleeding heart conservative" guessing his bleeding was the trickle-down type.

Godspeed, Jack- but you could have done better. maybe next time, huh?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:11 AM
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26. He wrote it in November. The guy's dead. He was a conservative.
So what? That's now not allowed?

I think the letter was beautiful.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:00 AM
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24. Voting for Obama made folks feel like a part of something bigger than themselves.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:17 AM
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27. The Danger in the Jack Kemps of the World Is How They Outsource the Dirty Work
Edited on Sun May-03-09 08:19 AM by NashVegas
It's easy to respect Jack Kemp. In every appearance I viewed him, he appeared respectful of everyone around him, including Democrats. Yup, he kept his hands clean.


IRS V. The People eBooks

By: Jack Kemp
By: Ken Blackwell
Foreword by: Rush Limbaugh


So, yes. Let us be respectful on the passing of Jack Kemp, because for all outward appearances, Kemp was a reasonable Republican; let's just not forget that deeds DO count as much as words.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:56 AM
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30. Rest in Peace, Jack Kemp.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 10:13 AM
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31. Very nice letter, especially as it was to his grandkids. I respect that. nt
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:09 PM
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32. A wonderful letter!
Thanks for posting.

This did me in:

As an old professional football quarterback, in my days there were no black coaches, no black quarterbacks, and certainly no blacks in the front offices of football and other professional sports. For the record, there were great black quarterbacks and coaches — they just weren’t given the opportunity to showcase their talent. And pro-football (and America) was the worse off for it.

I remember quarterbacking the old San Diego Chargers and playing for the AFL championship in Houston. My father sat on the 50-yard line, while my co-captain’s father, who happened to be black, had to sit in a small, roped-off section of the end zone. Today, we can’t imagine the NFL without the amazing contributions of blacks at every level of this great enterprise.


So true.

Kemp had his faults, but he wasn't the kind of whack job that constitutes Today''s Republican Party.

Condolences to his family. RIP, Jack.
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