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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:14 PM
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On Rachel, Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell's guy, just eviscerated
darth cheney. It was a thing of beauty-catch it if you can.
Damning to the rethug party, too.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:16 PM
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1. That was great!
He gave it to Cheney right in the gut. You can tell that the Colonel has no use for Darth or his spawn.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:16 PM
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2. Compares Powell's military service to Cheney's lack of it.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:18 PM
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3. Instant Classic
I can't wait 'til it's up on youtube. I'm going to watch it every day.

He tore into Cheney without hesitation, and, man, was that Republican PISSED!!!!

That one just made history, betcha.

Beautiful. Just beautiful. Watching an influential and well-credentialed military man who also is a Republican finally punch back at that spineless, twist putz.

I am loving this ....................
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:23 PM
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8. My favorite part
He's destroying the party - we need someone with intestinal fortitude to tell him to go home and shut up. Deferment Dick can't compare with Powell. hahahahahaha :rofl:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:26 PM
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15. cheney just thinks about cheney, the repigs told him once to go away
looks like arrogant dick is still around, he really has a problem, keep on digging your grave Dick.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:54 PM
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18. That interview can be described as
total and complete contempt for the Dick. Beautiful.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:19 PM
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4. Yes, that was great.
Cheney has the dishonor of serving at the time of the biggest loss of lives on American soil by terrorists.

That's right...Bush and Cheney FAILED America on 9/11...they DID NOT PROTECT US.

And I loved his comment about Cheney being a liar, and why does the media keep giving him air time when he's been proven a liar over and over again... :rofl:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:45 PM
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10. WOW! Looks like he covered some
BASES! Brought up 9/11, did he?!!
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:07 PM
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20. Hit it outta the park with the bases loaded!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:19 PM
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5. saw it
so glad you posted this thread :)

:hi:

the ending was the most beauteous :)

ran down Colin's qualifications/achievements vs Cheney's :)
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:21 PM
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6. Yes it was a thing of beauty!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:21 PM
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7. That really was a thing of beauty
Deferment Dick - Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:43 PM
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9. Sounds beautiful! cheney's biggest
problem is he's so full of shit it's like fish in a barrel to line up the facts against him.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:46 PM
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11. Yup, most definitely a thing of beauty
Edited on Tue May-12-09 08:51 PM by Raine
and a joy to behold. :-) I'm going to watch it again, can't get enough of it. :thumbsup:
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:08 PM
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12. Its on youtube now
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:18 PM
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13. Wow!
That was great!!

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:24 PM
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14. Very good. Thanks for the link!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:53 PM
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17. Bet Joe Scum doesn't play that clip
tomorrow morning. Worth watching twice.

Thanks
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:47 PM
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16. It was damning
in so many ways, I wish I had the transcript so I could put out some written quotes.

It was stunning, and as you say, "a thing of beauty". Really.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:55 PM
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19. Just don't forget..Powell sat in front of the World at the UN and lied his ass off..
Edited on Tue May-12-09 10:08 PM by flyarm
and put the final nails in the coffin of our soldiers to start a damn war of lies..just don't forget that..he allowed himself to be a tool for the neo cons who started this damn war!..Powell is no damn hero..i would call him a traitor! A damn liar and a traitor and i hold him responsible for the deaths of our soldiers.

Do not make a hero out of Powell..

from my files i have kept since Powell sat in front of the world and lied his ass off!

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/feb/08/politics.iraq/print

Downing St admits blunder on Iraq dossierPlagiarism row casts shadow over No 10's case against Saddam
Michael White, Ewen MacAskill and Richard Norton-Taylor The Guardian, Saturday 8 February 2003 00.35 GMT larger | smaller Article history

Downing Street yesterday apologised for its failure to acknowledge that much of its latest dossier on Iraq was
lifted from academic sources,
as the affair threatened to further undermine confidence in the government's case for disarming Saddam Hussein.
MPs and anti-war groups were quick to protest that other features of Whitehall's information campaign are suspect at a time when MI6 and other intelligence agencies are privately complaining at the way No 10 has been over-egging intelligence material on Iraq.

It emerged yesterday that the dossier issued last week -
later found to include a plagiarised section written by an American PhD student - was compiled by mid-level officials in Alastair Campbell's Downing Street communications department with only cursory approval from intelligence or even Foreign Office sources.

Though it now appears to have been a journalistic cut and paste job rather than high-grade intelligence analysis, the dossier ended up being cited approvingly on worldwide TV by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, when he addressed the UN security council on Wednesday.





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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/feb/15/iraq.usa/print
snip;

US claims on Iraq called into questionInspectors pick holes in Powell allegations and call for patience in carefully coded message to council
Jonathan Steele The Guardian, Saturday 15 February 2003 00.43 GMT larger | smaller Article historyColin Powell's long dossier of Iraq's alleged non-compliance came under withering attack from the chief UN weapons inspectors yesterday. They said they found several elements of his evidence either false or unconvincing.
Hans Blix picked on two satellite images of a chemical warfare site, which the US secretary of state told the security council, in his 90-minute presentation last week, proved Iraq was engaged in deception.




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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/feb/07/uk.internationaleducationnews/print
UK war dossier a sham, say expertsBritish 'intelligence' lifted from academic articles
Michael White and Brian Whitaker The Guardian, Friday 7 February 2003 09.49 GMT larger | smaller Article historyDowning Street was last night plunged into acute international embarrassment after it emerged that large parts of the British government's latest dossier on Iraq - allegedly based on "intelligence material" - were taken from published academic articles, some of them several years old.
Amid charges of "scandalous" plagiarism on the night when Tony Blair attempted to rally support for the US-led campaign against Saddam Hussein, Whitehall's dismay was compounded by the knowledge that the disputed document was singled out for praise by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, in his speech to the UN security council on Wednesday.

Citing the British dossier, entitled Iraq - its infrastructure of concealment, deception and intimidation in front of a worldwide television audience Mr Powell said: "I would call my colleagues' attention to the fine paper that the United Kingdom distributed... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities."

But on Channel 4 News last night it was revealed that four of the report's 19 pages had been copied - with only minor editing and a few insertions - from the internet version of an article by Ibrahim al-Marashi which appeared in the Middle East Review of International Affairs last September.

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http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0816-01.htm

Published on Friday, August 16, 2002 by CommonDreams.org
The Powell Doctrine: Baghdad/Jenin/My Lai
by Heather Wokusch


snip;

Regardless, the attack on Iraq had already begun and television viewers worldwide were absorbing endless footage of laser-guided bombs, pinpoint missiles and other" precision warfare" that miraculously seemed to destroy machinery without harming civilians. Back home, flag-waving hysteria followed Operation Desert Storm to its climax, and returning conquerors, including then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell, were feted as national heroes.

Minor glitch. A few months later it was revealed that actually 100,000 to 200,000 Iraqis, many of them unarmed civilians, had died during the six-week attack, including tens of thousands mowed down in aerial assaults as they were trying to flee along what became nicknamed "The Highway of Death."

Equating civilians and combatants is integral to "The Powell Doctrine" which recommends using overwhelming force on the enemy, regardless of civilian casualties. In his autobiography, Colin Powell discusses the Vietnam War and explains the benefits of destroying the food and homes of villagers who might sympathize with the Viet Cong: "We burned the thatched huts, starting the blaze with Ronson and Zippo lighters ... Why were we torching houses and destroying crops? Ho Chi Minh had said people were like the sea in which his guerillas swam. We tried to solve the problem by making the whole sea uninhabitable. In the hard logic of war, what difference does it make if you shot your enemy or starved him to death?"

Unmentioned is the moral implication of targeting civilians, or why doing so would make them want to sympathize with the US.



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A few years later, Colin Powell was an up-and-coming staff officer, assigned to the Americal headquarters at Chu Lai, Vietnam. He was put in charge of handling a young soldier, Tom Glen, who had written a letter accusing the Americal division of routine brutality against Vietnamese civilians; the letter was detailed, its allegations horrifying, and its contents echoed complaints received from other soldiers. Rather than speaking to Glen about the letter, however, Powell's response was to conduct a cursory investigation followed by a report faulting Glen, and concluding, "In direct refutation of this (Glen's) portrayal, is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent."

Minor glitch. Soon after, news surfaced about the Americal division's criminal brutality at My Lai, in which 347 unarmed civilians were massacred; Powell's memoirs fail to mention the Glen incident.


do goggle Powell and MyLai..in Vietnam!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:42 PM
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22. I won't forget that. I also won't forget that he was supposedly
lied to. Powell isn't without guilt or complicity.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:16 PM
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21. Today's broadcast is so good I'm watching it a second time
Wilkerson saying that Cheney is destroying what's left of the R Party and thinking someone with guts would be telling Cheney to shut up and go home by now.

Hey, Wilkerson, I think you just did!

And then Spitzer's interview was so informative. Rachel is finding her groove and getting some terrific interviews right and left.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 11:03 PM
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23. This whole Cheney in the spotlight, Rush over Powell drama seems a bit scripted to me.
Lemme guess, Cheney self-destructs for the good of the party (takes all that nasty torture stain with him, an easy toss because no one likes him anyway), takes Rush (who's throwing his weight around a bit too freely perhaps even for his masters) with him, leaving Powell/Bush(v.3, the Jeb "upgrade") or Bush/Powell, to save the party in 2012?

Could they be trying to create yet another sordid reality for us to follow along and watch?
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