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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 08:54 PM
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On the spin that Obama's new Afghanistan commander represents a shift away from deadly airstrikes
Edited on Tue May-12-09 09:07 PM by bigtree

THE news that Pentagon will replace the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, U.S. General David McKiernan with Rumsfeld buddy, Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal was met with speculation that the change represented a shift away from the reckless, scattershot raids and airstrikes which have so inflamed the Afghan population for their collateral killings.

McKiernan was said to have been pushing for more troops for Afghanistan since Bush was his boss, and that fact was presented, by some, as evidence that the Obama administration was shifting it's Afghan strategy to the more comprehensive approach (by replacing him) which would combine economic and diplomatic efforts (hearts and minds) with the defense of the Afghan government, rather than the arbitrary, blustering militarism which has resulted in so many collateral killings of civilians. Yet, the escalation of force by Obama of 21,000 troops to be completed later this year (combined with the 6,000 or so McKiernan got from Bush) is pretty close to the 30,000 troops the outgoing commander had requested.

McChrystal has been presented as a perfect fit for the new focus by the Pentagon on 'counterinsurgency', which is essentially a combination of approaches which intends to transform the besieged population into a grateful partner in our nation-building efforts against the insurgency and resistance. But, his background in Special Forces actually suggests an intention to move away from the comprehensive approach of a combining diplomacy with the militarism to the expediency of even more 'pinpoint' strikes which intend to stifle and eliminate the leadership of the militarized resistance.

from Gareth Porter: http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46821

Media reporting on the choice of McChrystal simply echoed the Pentagon’s line. The Washington Post said his selection "marks the continued ascendancy of officers who have pressed for the use of counterinsurgency tactics, in Iraq and Afghanistan, that are markedly different from the Army's traditional doctrine".

The New York Times cited unnamed "Defense Department officials" in reporting, "His success in using intelligence and firepower to track and kill insurgents, and his training in unconventional warfare that emphasizes the need to protect the population, made him the best choice for the command in Afghanistan..."

The Wall Street Journal suggested that McChrystal was the kind of commander who would "fight the kind of complex counterinsurgency warfare" that Gates wants to see in Afghanistan, because his command of Special Operations forces in Iraq had involved "units that specialize in guerilla warfare, including the training of indigenous armies".

But these explanations for the choice of McChrystal equate his command of the Special Operations forces with expertise on counterinsurgency, despite the fact that McChrystal spent his last five years as a commander of Special Operations forces focusing overwhelmingly on counter-terrorism operations, not on counterinsurgency.

Whereas counterinsurgency operations are aimed primarily at influencing the population and are primarily non-military, counter-terrorism operations are exclusively military and focus on targeting the "enemy".


In fact, U.N. envoy for Afghanistan Kai Eide said in an interview in Islamabad today that the new commander should take heed of the measures McKiernan had been implementing to help protect the Afghan population against the collateral effects of the militarism of the coalition forces (despite the latest round of tragic collateral killings).

from Reuters: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/ISL431868.htm

U.N. envoy for Afghanistan Kai Eide said in an interview in Islamabad on Tuesday that outgoing commander General David McKiernan had made "tremendous efforts" to establish rules for the use of air power and cut the number of civilian casualties.

With U.S. reinforcements on the way and fighting expected to intensify, it was vital that new commander Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal ensured the rule were kept, Eide said.

"It is one of the most important tasks that a new commander will have, to make sure that with all of these additional troops, and with intensified fighting this summer, that the rules set by General McKiernan are respected," Eide said.


Certainly there is much to be desired from the U.S. command in limiting or eliminating the types of airstrikes and raids which have produces so many collateral killings of innocents in Afghanistan. McKiernan should definitely be held to account for those instances where the U.S. force has recklessly targeted the population centers in their pursuit of the 'enemy.' Yet, there were recent moves by the outgoing commander to connect with the communities in an effort to mitigate and lessen the devastating consequences and effects of the NATO occupation on Afghans who inhabit the villages and provinces which are targets of the U.S.-dominated forces' offensive attacks.

from the AP in April: http://www.wlwt.com/politics/19145115/detail.html


The top U.S. general in Afghanistan reached out to influential Afghan tribesmen in regions where U.S. troops will soon deploy, apologizing for past mistakes and saying he is now studying the Quran, the Muslim holy book.

Gen. David McKiernan met with villagers in Helmand and Kandahar -- two of Afghanistan's most violent provinces -- in an attempt to foster good will ahead of the U.S. troop surge that will send 21,000 more forces here this summer to stem an increasingly violent Taliban insurgency.

McKiernan said he wanted to show respect to tribal elders by traveling to Kandahar on Wednesday to explain some of the mistakes U.S. forces have made in the past -- such as arresting people based on information taken from one side in a tribal fight, or killing civilians during operations.

"I'm trying to connect to the local population in a bottom-up way and try to explain what the new U.S. strategy means and why they're going to see an increased force presence where they live," McKiernan said during the trip to Kandahar aboard the seven passenger jet he flies in . . .


Here's hoping that the new head broom in the U.S. command in Afghanistan isn't abandoning these comprehensive intentions of the outgoing commander for some expedient attempt to put a lid on the insurgency with some sort of decisive, military campaign ('targeted' or not). It would be typical for this leadership at the Pentagon to place belief in some big military strike, to end all military strikes. That's what the 'old-boy' selection of Rumsfeld's buddy looks like to me.

We'll just have to wait and see if his promotion to the Afghanistan command produces change in the policy there like the Pentagon and others are spinning it. The way defenders of the administration's Afghanistan policy are presenting the move, we're to expect an outcome more in line with the sweeping declarations made in the announcement of his 'new' strategy for 'success'. We'll see.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:09 PM
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1. Sy Hersch says Obama's new man headed Cheney's assassinaiton squad.
... can't find the link. Saw it today.
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soryang Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:12 PM
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2. Afghanistan doesn't have a government
McKeirnan said recently there is no military solution in Afghanistan. That is another reason he is out.

If you've read John Paul Vann and the American Experience in Vietnam, you'll know that the resources for a counter insurgency operation in Afghanistan, personnel, money and infrastructure simply do not exist.

The appointment of McChrystal is a murder inc type military ops focus. The airstrikes won't stop because direct combat ops will promote further resistance and US casualties. This is going to be an empire bled white disaster.

Afghanistan is only a base for destroying Pakistan and Iran.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:32 AM
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9. Bingo, as is Iraq. It's the perfect clusterfuck sandwich
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:20 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this, bigtree. It would be hard for me to think that Petraeus, who is
such a "win over the populace" kind of commander would appoint someone who only sees this from the kill-the-enemy perspective.

Rachel Maddow just had a former Army Ranger Commander on her show who is now a foreign policy wonk of some type (pardon the lack of precise titles, please) and he was making a case that this guy McChrystal is a protege of Petraeus and also a brilliant, intellectual.

So, for this old vet who is ready for us to get the fuck out of the Middle East, I am somewhat encouraged that we may actually be trying to put in place a strategy that actually tries to turn Afghanistan into something resembling a representative government and not a feudal state. We have reason to believe that actually providing the Afghan people with security FROM the Taliban and giving them a chance for economic recovery, coupled with a less corrupt government, might bear fruit for a better region. Certainly if the strategy succeeds in wresting control back from the Taliban AND holding it, it will be a template for Pakistan. Or maybe not, but at least it would be a positive change.

President Obama is brilliant and I'm sure he recognizes the brilliance in Petraeus, and probably McChrystal, if they've met. It is refreshing and promotes a feeling of optimism to think that our military may be actually operating on something other than testosterone in Afghanistan. Our servicemen and women deserve the kind of leadership these men could provide.

I'm willing to give it a chance. We're there. We know if we pull out precipitously the Taliban will be in there enforcing their tribal/religious-fanatic barbarity and setting the civilian populace back another millenium. Maybe this move will help build a non-Islamic extremist state. I'm filled with HOPE that it will.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:28 PM
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4. Shifting away from "deadly airstrikes" would bad, um, how?
They can't even have a wedding without creating 25 funerals.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:42 PM
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5. I don't think they'll shift away from them with this new/old commander
It looks to me like they're just doubling down on the strategy and expecting this guy to prosecute them in a more effective way - moving away from their 'long war' view to a more urgent attempt to settle the conflict militarily.

The problem I see with that notion is the folly in believing that these strikes are going to bring about some dramatic improvement in the stalemate. If anything, Holbrook's comments today that the troop increase might further destabilize the region is probably more on target.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:46 PM
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6. This bullshit about the "pinpoint" accuracy of our bombs has to end
We're not fooling the rest of the world and we're not fooling the families of our victims.
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soryang Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 04:25 PM
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10. The "precision strike" myth resurrected again
Nothing could be further from the truth. This is what they said about air to air and air to ground missiles during the Vietnam conflict. Truth was that the air war was a terrible failure.

"Every so often in the history of war, a new weapon comes along that fundamentally rewrites the rules of battle. This is a story about a revolution in unmanned aviation that is doing just that." She described the drones as "hunting down insurgents, every minute of every day," and as "one of the most important planes in the United States Air Force."

Who wrote this fluff, the aerospace contractor? Hitler thought much the same about his V-1 and V-2. It's a direct but deeply flawed historical tradition and it has similarly defective roots.

This is something right out of George Orwell. It doesn't matter who they kill with these weapons. Eurasia is the enemy. They'll kill someone, old men, women and children. They will thereby ensure that the conflict will continue and the civilian population will support the insurgency. The notion that you can target an individual from thirteen thousand miles away with a 7 figure weapon is complete nonsense. Just like the terror air bombing in WWII, the targets are residential homes. Who lives in them is a matter of conjecture and guessing. It presumes a god like omniscience that simply doesn't exist in the real world.





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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:07 AM
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7. Operation PHOENIX
Same story in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam, except the Enpire substitutes "terrorist" for Vietcong.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 06:44 AM
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8. ain't it the truth?
It's tempting to say this is just like the Bush administration, but it's more accurate to say that this is typical military thinking to fall into believing that there's some magical military solution. I agree with the poster above who thinks McKeirnan was forced out because he didn't believe in a military solution and said so publicly. I'd go further to say that I THINK McKeirnan had some problem with the latest airstrike which produced so many civilian deaths and lost the argument about how to mitigate the outcries from Afghans. We see that the military response is not the same as the approach McKeirnan took in the recent past where he sought rapprochement with the villagers, instead of the deflecting of blame that has followed from the Pentagon.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 04:27 PM
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11. Er, I don't think anyone suggested we would do away with the concept of airstrikes. nt
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