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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:15 AM Original message |
Social Security: Has anythig been discussed in DU |
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sweettater (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. Baby Boomers |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. No "baby boomer" is yet collecting full Social Security retirement benefits. |
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sweettater (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. alright, maybe not full |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. maybe the US should consider taxing offshore employees? |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Exactly. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Baby boomers paid more into social security than any other |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Wrong. There will be a surplus of $18.8 billion in 2009 and $18.3 billion in '10. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Baby boomers consented in 1983 to pay more than necessary... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. There is no "bank" where SS surplus resides. It's been spent. All of it. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Bullshit. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. "Whether it has been spent is irrelevant..." |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. The Social Security Administration has a vested right to the bonds it purchased. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You're confusing DEBT with MONEY. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Money IS debt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. You're arguing a point nobody has made. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I'm frustrated because of the defeatism implicit in this argument. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Newsflash: Even a "bank" 'spends' its deposits. It's not a mayonnaise jar. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Right. But a bank and a depositor are TWO DISTINCT ENTITIES |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Wrong. Most baby boomers are still working, and are in fact at the |
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sweettater (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. Baby Boomers |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Wrong! I will be 63 tomorrow. I can't retire on full benefits until I am 66 which is in 2012. |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. i remember al gore saying social security and "lock box" |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Social security money is borrowed by the government for other things. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. They're not IOUs but US Treasury bonds. If our government defaults on those, we have no country. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. US Treasury Bonds = IOUs |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Then I guess you'd better learn Chinese, since they will be pretty pissed about that. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-14-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. And your savings account statement is something other than an IOU? n/t |
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bkkyosemite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Born in 1946 I am one of the first of the Boomers. If you decided to take SS at 62 than yes a Boomer |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. Sign up for this newsletter. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. I don't think you can believe what they are saying. One on side there are those who want to see it |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. You're not retiring for 30 years? |
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. well, i am 39 years old now, but i have been working since i was |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Don't worry, it'll be there. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. There is a simple fix for Social Security that Obama has already suggested |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
15. It is going to the military industrial complex and multi-national |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. Wonder if Booooooosh raided the fund to pay for Iraq? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. That is not what "the news today" is saying. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
18. My dad told me in his late 80s that he'd heard the same song over and over |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Your dad is right because I've been hearing the same song all my life since |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. but they did make some changes in the mid 1980s to "save" it |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-13-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
29. Thom Hartmann is discussing it now. He says it's bull pucky. All they have |
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