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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:02 AM
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Wisconsin police can put GPS on your vehicle Without warrant or your knowledge.
Edited on Wed May-13-09 11:03 AM by Blaze Diem
Just heard this on HNN.
Am waiting for them to get to the full story.

Law enforcement has way too much effin power.
My opinion.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:06 AM
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1. Why would they want to?
I mean, why would they want to know where your car was, in general? Mine's either in the driveway or on its way to the supermarket, mostly. Now, they might want to know what lake I'm fishing in, since I catch so darn many fish that people are insanely jealous of my skills.

I'm betting that what they want to do is stick these on the guy's car who's leaving the meth cook's house, you know. They might want to know where he's going.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:19 AM
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6. More likely they will use it to check up on their girl friend, or to blackmail someone. if they
have a case, why not follow the constitution and get a warrant>

By the way, why are their still meth dealers? One would assume they would bustr the meth cook and the guy. Are they palnning on shaking him down for a bribe, is that why they need to put a GPS on a junkies car?

The up side I suppose is if the cop is a Dem he could put it on Repo politician cars and see which prostitutes they like to visit. Course the downside is, what if the cop is a Repo?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:22 AM
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7. Ulterior motives - count on it
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:07 AM
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2. Only until the US Supreme Court says
thay cant
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:51 PM
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12. I would rely on the SCOTUS to say they can't.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:09 AM
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3. Apparently this is deemed as O.K. since it does not involve search & siezure
Edited on Wed May-13-09 11:11 AM by Blaze Diem
YET.
What a horrid law.
What other states do this without our knowing?


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:22 AM
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8. So that means anyone can do this, right? And it's legal. I hope someone puts one on the
judges car and then puts up a web site so people can follow the judge to his girl friends house, to the bar, etc.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:03 PM
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9. lol....I can see this law working for various reasons..as you so put it.
Pretty soon everyone will be surveilling everyone else...its nuts.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:12 AM
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4. Yes, they do have waaayyy too much power
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:16 AM
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5. I've been thinking about the logistics of this.
First of all, I'm against this, and would destroy one if I found it on MY car. But I have some questions:

1. A GPS tracker needs a somewhat unobstructed view of the sky...how are they going to mount this on a vehicle unobtrusively?

2. It also needs to transmit...how to power?

3. If I see someone under my car I will presume they are up to no good and I will *ahem* interrupt them...do I get in trouble for protecting my property?

4. Are they coming on to MY private property to do this?

:shrug:
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Libertyfirst Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:16 PM
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10. Excellent questions. Anyone k now the answers. n/t
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namahage Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:37 PM
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11. The rationale is that it's no different from following a car on public highways and roads
and as such there is no "reasonable expectation of privacy" as required by the 4th Amendment.

There was a famous Supreme Court case, U.S. v. Knotts, 460 U.S. 276 (1983) in which a beeper was used to track a car back to a drug lab. As long as the surveillance is not used to monitor activity in a protected place (such as in a home--a similar case, http://supreme.justia.com/us/468/705">U.S. v. Karo, 468 U.S. 705 (1984) held that if the surveillance was used to monitor activity in a home then there was a search involved) then it is not a "search" that requires a warrant.

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