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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:43 PM
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A real simple question
If bush was still prez and said releasing the photos of torture could result in more deaths for our troops/etc and told his attorneys to try and stop them - what would you say?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:46 PM
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1. He did and I said exactly what I'm saying now.
They should be released.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:48 PM
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2. Bush wasnt his own man
We thought that Obama is, thats what makes things like this so disturbing.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:48 PM
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3. Release them. Enough of the bullshit.
Our troops were in danger the moment Bush/Cheney sanctioned "Pre-emptive War", carpet bombing of civilians, i.e.; "Shock and Awe" and TORTURE. Release the photos, and then prosecute the perpetrators of these crimes. Let the world see that American does not condone torture in any way, shape or form.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:51 PM
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6. America does condone torture..
at least half of the people..according to those that people choose to represent them.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:49 PM
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4. I'd say he had very
good reason to not want these photos released.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:51 PM
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5. What was the process by which the Abu Ghraib photos came out
were they leaked to the media or officially released?
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:08 PM
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7. According to Salon, they were first leaked, then released:
From Salon.com http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/03/29/aclu_abu_ghraib/index.html


...

The Bush administration agreed Tuesday to release dozens of disputed photographs and videos of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib, two weeks after Salon published an official Army criminal archive that included many, if not all, of the same images.

The government's decision ends a nearly two-year legal battle with civil liberties advocates over whether the publication of the material would harm national security.

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The American Civil Liberties Union and other civil liberties groups had filed a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act to obtain 74 photographs and three videos of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib. The material had been given to Army investigators by military police Spc. Joseph Darby on Jan. 13, 2004, an event that launched the Army's criminal investigation into what occurred at the prison.

This month, Salon published 279 photos and 19 videos from the Army's subsequent investigation of abuse at Abu Ghraib, along with a chronological account of abuse based largely on Army materials. Salon obtained the images, video and previously unreleased investigation documents in February from a military source who spent time at the prison and who is familiar with the Army probe.

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:21 PM
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9. thanks - suprised this other batch didn't leak out then. nt
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:16 PM
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8. Same thing I do now. Bull. Overall I'm VERY happy w/Obama but this is CRAP.
Truly. We can't keep covering up the past. It's like dropping a turd in the wash water. You might be able to shove it down to the bottom out of sight for a little while, but sooner or later it's going to rise back up to the top, and it's going to make a mess on the way. Better to throw it out into the sunlight now so it can dry up and blow away.
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