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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:27 AM
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The NYT sums up Obama's civil liberties record in one paragraph
Well, maybe this postpartisan thing is more powerful than I had anticipated. The Weekly Standard and the National Review are, per Greenwald, among his strongest supporters on "terrorism policies." Who would have thought Democratic control of the White House and the Congress would have resulted in that?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/16/obama/

Saturday May 16, 2009 07:26 EDT
The NYT sums up Obama's civil liberties record in one paragraph
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Among progressives, Democrats, liberals, Obama supporters and the like, there seems to be some debate about the extent to which Obama deserves criticisms for what he has done thus far in the realm of civil liberties, restoration of Constitutional principles, and reversing the severe imbalance between "security" and liberties -- major planks of his two-year-long campaign and among the most frequent weapons used to criticize the Bush presidency. On that topic, here is the first paragraph of this New York Times article this morning by David Sanger, summing everything up:

President Obama’s decisions this week to retain important elements of the Bush-era system for trying terrorism suspects and to block the release of pictures showing abuse of American-held prisoners abroad are the most graphic examples yet of how he has backtracked, in substantial if often nuanced ways, from the approach to national security that he preached as a candidate, and even from his first days in the Oval Office.

Here's how the NYT describes the article on its front page:

Obama After Bush: Leading by Second Thought

President Obama’s decisions this week to retain important elements of the Bush-era system for trying terrorism suspects and to block the release of pictures showing abuse of American-held prisoners abroad are the most graphic examples yet of how he has backtracked, in substantial if often nuanced ways, from the approach to national security that he preached as a candidate, and even from his first days in the Oval Office.


The opening paragraph of this Washington Post article today says much the same thing:

As a candidate for president, Barack Obama offered himself as a clear alternative to Bush-era anti-terrorism policies. Governing has proven muddier.

Both articles quote the hardest-core Bush supporters as heaping praise on Obama for what he has done in the area of "national security," terrorism and civil liberties ("Pete Wehner, a member of Karl Rove’s staff in the Bush White House applauded several of Mr. Obama’s decisions this week"). Indeed, all week long, and even before that, the greatest enthusiasm for Obama's decisions on so-called "terrorism policies" and civil liberties (with some important exceptions) has been found in the pages of The Weekly Standard and National Review.

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What would it say about a person who spent the last seven years vehemently criticizing those policies to suddenly decide that the same policies were perfectly fine or not particularly bothersome when Obama adopts them? How could that be justified? What should one say about a person who vehemently objected to X when Bush did it, but then suddenly found ways to defend or mitigate X when Obama does it? Just re-read that first paragraph from the NYT article today. What should a rational person say in response to what it describes?

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:33 AM
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1. They don't call it the Bush-Obama Doctrine for nothing.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:35 AM
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3. Billyoc.
The Courts will release them. Why not pass the shit to them?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:39 AM
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4. Oh, the pictures? I couldn't care less. I'm talking about due process for detainees.
They can bury those pictures at the bottom of the ocean for all I care.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:07 AM
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6. Ah yes, the rule of law restoration. That was the good ol US of A prior to it's demise by the
bushitlers.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 10:37 AM
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7. They needs to be adjudication for the prisoners, so I agree..
letting them rot isn't justice. Looking back isn't going to get us forward.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:34 AM
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2. we all know repubs will rush to embrace other obama policies in gratitude lol nt
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-16-09 09:39 AM
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5. And the Republican spokespeople, like Ari Fleicher, are all running around acting vindicated
It's been a great week :sarcasm:
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