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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:32 AM Original message |
Is President Obama a "political coward"? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. someday democrats will control congress...... lol nt |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Our political class as a whole is rotten and cowardly... |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Charles is an idiot, a political idiot |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. i don't want a pony...i want justice and wisdom n/t |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You're not the first, or the last |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
73. Why does he keep saying one thing and then doing another? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. He is a bourgeois obscurantist. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #39 |
77. Pompous little prick is even more precise. |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. At one time |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. IF the system were starting from scratch |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. In my mind it is unspeakably cruel |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Excellent post. nt |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Well said |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. If only that were true |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. So |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. He could afford to pre-pay |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Damn, CB! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Be that as it may, Obama said what he said |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Talk is cheap |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. It's very obvious you don't care what he says or you wouldn't be twisting it |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
75. This deserves its own thread... Well said. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. If Obama doesn't toe the corporate line he knows the media will destroy him |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Which is why reforming the media needs to be one of the highest priorities... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Bingo! And yet he said that he won't reinstate the Fairness Doctrine |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I think we need heavy reform, but the Fairness Doctrine needs updating if used... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #64 |
76. I don't disagree... |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
5. Every word of this is true. Unfortunately if you point that out, you're "spewing Obama-hate". |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
58. And don't forget; "you would rather have McCain"! |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think he is a rationale realist which is one reason he got elected |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. so the positions he's bracktracked on were just "edge" positions? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Do you notice the populist as a whole up in arms? I don't nor am I |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It'd be nice if he went to the mat for at least *one* of his tougher campaign promises |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. It would be nice if "citizens" pushed him and offered THEIR PROTECTION |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. most people in the nation are in favor of Universal coverage single payer health care Like BO |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
59. And most people want to get us out of Iraq and believe that BushCo |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. rational realist:: fancy way to say "no leadship vision" |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. He is a survivor. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. opportunists always make the best survivors |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
7. The “Obama” Agenda So Far... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. calm methodical deliberative calculation ... nothing wrong with that. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Well it does open one up to the charges of cowardice |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. towards what ends? n/t |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. It depends to what ends you apply it. Iraq was a result of methodical deliberative calculation. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. Does "not as bad" = good? . |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. nope... nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
17. Adhering to the corporate line is the only way to get elected, which is a damned shame |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. So the situation is hopeless |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. There are a couple of things we could do, specified in the Declaration of Independence. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. Deleted message |
CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Yours is the saddest post I've read. |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. I'm more mad than sad |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
18. I think he's simply more of a Corporatist than his supporters allowed themselves to believe n/t |
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European Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
19. Pelosi, Reid, and Obama all need a spine, but they are better than Repukes. |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. How Are Democrats Better |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. because in the majority of instances, they are not doing the same thing. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. lol yeah he was so scared that instead of |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. in the words of Obama... |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. arrg - apologies for bad editing, |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
25. Anyone who would belittle those photos as "Rumsfeld's porn collection" is not worth reading. nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
26. All "centrists" are political cowards. |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. If you don't have the centrists, then you do not have a party.. |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. I think that's probably only true |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
69. As Jim Hightower once said |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. Pearce is an enemy of the people. n/t |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
40. maybe the cia and military sat him down and told him just how he will be governing? |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I'll never forget the look on his face when he came out to accept the Presidency. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. That's why he's bucking the Pentagon on nuclear weaponry? |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
44. Um, NO |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
48. Maybe. Or, |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
50. I'm reminded of the scene in "The American President" |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. Coward? |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
55. Certainly looks that way--a likable corporate tool. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
61. No. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. NO....he is a rare Leader who wants the best for the Nation/Planet...he is PRICELESS and the Pubs |
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Reterr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
65. The signs point that way |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-16-09 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
74. No |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. Totally |
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threadkillaz (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:18 AM Response to Original message |
79. No, he's just not in charge of shit. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-17-09 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
80. He is what he does, and what he's doing certainly doesn't show courage. |
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