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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:15 PM
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Obama Huddles With Human Rights Groups Before Security Speech
Edited on Wed May-20-09 09:08 PM by G_j
heard about this on Rachel tonight. where Michael Isikoff gave what i found to be a depressing summary, which didn't sound real promising for those of us who want investigations, and prosecutions. He said Eric Holder was silent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/obama-huddles-with-human_n_206104.html

Obama Huddles With Human Rights Groups Before Security Speech

Under heavy criticism for a series of decisions on national security that resembled, for some, those of the Bush years, President Barack Obama hosted a lengthy meeting on Wednesday with the leaders of several key human rights and civil liberties groups.

Addressed were the topics that promise to be front and center during the President's major foreign policy speech scheduled for Thursday.

According to an attendee, Obama expressed frustration with Congress' decision to remove funding for the closure of the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay. The president declared that his hands were tied in some ways regarding the use of reformed military tribunals, though he pledged to try as many detainees as possible in Article III civilian federal courts. And he left the door open for the future release of detainee abuse photos, saying that his administration's current opposition to the release was dictated by immediate concern over the complications it could cause to America's mission in Afghanistan.

More broadly, the president said he was determined to build a new structure for executive oversight that would last beyond his presidency, preempting the problems he currently confronts from happening again.

"We talked a lot about the framework in which he is operating, and he talked about his strong desire to reestablish a system under which the executive is not exercising unfettered authority," said Elisa Massimino, CEO of Human Rights First and an attendee at the Wednesday affair. "One of the chief differences between him and his predecessor was that he didn't think he ought to be making these decisions in an ad-hoc, unaccountable way. And so he said that, in thinking through this, he was focused on how his successor might operate."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Massimino detailed what she described as a "lively and detailed and serious" discussion on some of the days most vexing national security issues. Over the course of roughly an hour and fifteen minutes, Obama, along with Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Attorney General Eric Holder, advisers Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod, foreign policy hand Dennis McDonough, and counter-terrorism chief John Brennan, held court with a group of academics, as well as officials with the ACLU, Human Rights Watch, and the Center for Constitutional Rights.

Asked to attend the meeting on Tuesday afternoon, the group came prepared with what Massimino described as "some pointed pushback and questions" on a variety of topics. The president, she added, spoke for roughly fifteen minutes before opening up the forum for questions.

"It was really a back and forth discussion," said Massimino. "It was not, one side makes a presentation and the other side listens and takes notes. It was really probing."


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:38 PM
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1. big difference between that article..
and Michael Isikoff's report. Glad to see that the reversal to release the Gitmo photo's doesn't mean they won't be released.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 08:46 PM
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2. I thought I could find something by Isikoff on this
Edited on Wed May-20-09 08:47 PM by G_j
but couldn't.

Yes, this article paints a different picture of the meeting. It's very short though.
I'm sure we will hear more from participants.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:03 PM
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3. Issakoff said that Obama said it was not helpful to prosecute
criminals that torture. I am becoming more and more disappointed every day. Health Care is a right. My niece has been given a death sentence because she has cancer and no health insurance. No one will treat her. Obama seems to be owned by the Insurance companies.
Whats next? :dem:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:02 PM
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5. I think you should wait for more..
than what Isikoff says. As far as the insurance companies go, it's not only the President they own. Just look at Congress and consider for a moment what they will pass.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 09:39 PM
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4. Video, Isikoff on the Maddow show

Rachel Maddow: Obama/Holder/Activists Meeting Today - 'No Prosecutions of Anyone in Bush Admin'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x314893
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