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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:34 PM
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Drug Puppies


“Yes, as we‘re looking at these pictures of these cute puppies, did these puppies survive? Because, as we talked about, they have to cut them open to put the heroin inside and then stitch them back up.” Rita Cosby, MSNBC Feb. 2006


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10627811/

The topic of recreational drugs is a complex one which can (and must) be approached from several points of view. For the addict, drugs become a source of misery as they compromise their values, health and future in order to feed an addiction. For society, drugs lead to wasted lives, overcrowded prisons, and (sometimes) violence. In recent years, the topic of legalization has entered the mainstream dialogue, as folks begin to realize that jail may not be the best place to treat a medical problem like addiction.

If you are the DEA, the last thing you want to see is legalization. So, what do you do? Change the subject. Forget about drugs. The new issue is puppies . Those cute, furry, adorable little creatures that we all just love to death. Did you know that drugs kill puppies? Every time a junkie shoots up, a puppy cries.

When Rita Cosby gave the DEA a forum two years ago, I was struck by the phrase drug puppies . Those two words summed up a process which goes on all the time. Someone or some institution (usually a person or group in power) finds one particular aspect of multifaceted truth threatening. Since they can not dispute the facts, they do the next best thing. They turn the truth on its head, pull it inside out, paint it in new colors and (ultimately) wind up calling day night to general applause. Like a carnival magician.

Here are some other “drug puppies.”

I. Nancy Pelosi Must Pay for Bush Era Torture


"There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party...and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat. Republicans are a bit stupider, more rigid, more doctrinaire in their laissez-faire capitalism than the Democrats, who are cuter, prettier, a bit more corrupt--until recently... and more willing than the Republicans to make small adjustments when the poor, the black, the anti-imperialists get out of hand. But, essentially, there is no difference between the two parties."

Gore Vidal


http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/oleeb/2009/04/gore-vidal-and-the-two-right-w.php

Newt Gingrich would disagree. He would tell you that Republicans have a duty to lie, cheat and break the law---like federal and international laws against torture—and in general do whatever they must to make special business interests happy. Democrats, he would tell you, have a duty to save lives, stop wars, protect the weak and—if necessary—throw themselves in front of an oncoming bus in order to save puppies. That stereotype goes double for Democratic women . This is the logic behind his one man crusade to get another speaker tossed out, the way that he engineered the fall of Jim Wright, (D) Texas.

All of us have watched in horror as the Republicans have attempted to change the whole torture debate into a referendum on Speaker Pelosi. The press has played along. Men who torture---shrug. A woman who might have heard about torture and who did not stage her own reenactment of Norma Rae? For shame!

I would like to throw a little logic into this emotional debate. In January, 2003, a former federal employee (of the DEA) was sentenced to prison for talking to reporters at The Times about an investigation. Here is a link.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1042568651135

A federal judge in Atlanta has imposed a one-year prison sentence on a former intelligence analyst charged with stealing government information and leaking it to a London newspaper.

In a case that the U.S. Attorney in Atlanta says establishes a significant precedent, federal prosecutors assigned a media market price to the leaked information high enough to ensure a felony charge and increase the anticipated prison term.

William S. Duffey Jr., U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, said the successful prosecution of former Atlanta Drug Enforcement Administration analyst Jonathan Randel stands as a warning to government employees, particularly law enforcement agents, who might consider providing sensitive, unclassified information to anyone, including journalists, outside of the federal government.


Someone tell me again what Pelosi was supposed to have done with the secret info she received from the CIA? Peddle it to a newspaper? Scrawl it on a bathroom wall? Confide in her priest?

Folks like Newt hope the rest of us will forget that the Bush-Cheney administration criminalized whistle blowers. Pelosi did not face censure if she talked. She faced jail time. The Randel prosecution was meant to keep everyone in government silent. Those who are horrified that members of Congress (Republicans as well as Democrats) knew and said nothing need to to focus on stripping the executive branch of its unconstitutional powers, which have gradually accumulated over the last three GOP regimes, Nixon/Ford, Reagan/Bush and Bush-Cheney.

II. Guns Will Keep Us Safe From Guns

The NRA has its own version of Drug Puppies. Logic says that gun violence should prompt our legislators to consider gun safety measures. Like stronger rules for licensing and selling weapons. These could cost U.S arms dealers lots of money. So, the gun manufacturers of America have found a way to turn lead (pellets) into gold. Every time another crazed gunman commits mass murder, we hear a chorus exclaim Those people would not have died, if they had been allowed to carry guns! Amish school children shot down? They were targeted because they did not have weapons. Another church attacked? Jesus wants us to pack heat.

The result of this insanity has became clear in Texas, where the Legislature is planning to approve the possession of firearms on college campuses and at college functions (like football games).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-texas_guns_wittapr27,0,5010044.story

Anyone who has ever seen a brawl break out at a sports event knows that the last thing we need is to throw guns into the mixture. Note from the above link that the folks in Austin claim that they will prevent what happened at Virginia Tech from happening on a Texas college campus. However, their law actually strips away one level of protection, since would be mass murderers will now have a right to carry a sniper rifle to the top of the highest building in Austin. I am sure all the kids on the ground at UT carrying small handguns will feel so much safer as the bullets come raining down from the sky.



Behind this bit of sleight of logic is the fallacy Blame the victim! . It is no longer the shooter’s fault that he decided to kill a bunch of church goers or diners or students. Now the blame rests squarely on the heads of the dead folks, who allowed themselves to be targeted and killed. Their unarmed status made them like a girl wearing a short skirt. Of course some one with a gun was going to try to shoot them. This is America.

III. “Let Them Eat Healthcare!”

The problem: Forty million Americans can not afford or get health insurance and therefore they have only limited access to health care. Many more Americans have insurance which does nothing to help them afford quality health care, as Michael Moore demonstrated in Sicko . That’s because health insurers are in the business of collecting premiums, not paying out on claims, and so they have made an art out of building roadblocks that keep people from getting necessary care.

The solution: Force all Americans to buy the same health insurance that does not provide access to care. That way we can all enjoy being part of a health care system that costs twice as much per person as any other country in the world but delivers results that would make folks in Eastern Europe ashamed.

Even as they try to get Congress to force us to buy their overpriced policies, the health insurance industry seeks to frame the issue as one of choice . Public insurance, they are quick to tell us, is the same as welfare. That means that it is something that only the poor can tolerate. Like generics and second hand clothes. The rest of us want shiny, new name brand insurance . We want it so badly that we can not wait for Congress to tell us that we have to go buy it.

Do not be fooled by the people who peddle Drug Puppies. They do not care about puppies (or the unborn or "choice" or your safety or the truth). They are snake oil salesmen who have found a slick way to sell us something we do not want or need.


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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:39 PM
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1. Um...
For the addict, drugs become a source of misery as they compromise their values, health and future in order to feed an addiction.

Health perhaps, but the vast majority of drug users do not compromise their values in order to feed an addiction.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:44 PM
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2. I mention addiction, because it is an appropriate focus for public policy.
Recreational use, like casual drinking, is a matter of personal choice. But the DEA wants us to believe that all drugs kill (puppies).
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:09 AM
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12. Are you talking casual users or addicts?
And which drugs are we discussing?

Even alcoholics often end up compromising their values in pursuit of their addiction.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:48 PM
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13. I was a hard core cigerette smoker for years, and I didn't comprimise my values to buy smokes.
Even alcoholics often end up compromising their values in pursuit of their addiction.

Alcohol and meth are strange drugs.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:33 PM
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15. Clearly, you have never known a junkie.
If your roommate is a junkie, your roommate is almost always a thief as well.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:05 AM
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17. I used to use heroin and I never stole from my roommates. nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:04 AM
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18. Good for you.
You could afford your habit.

I have had all kinds of things stolen from me, and I know so many other people who had money or valuables stolen, by junkies whose only priority was to get their heroin.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:08 PM
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25. "You could afford your habit. "
I couldn't always afford it, at those times I would just suck it up. I have been ripped off by roommates before, and they weren't regular drug users.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:09 PM
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27. So how addicted were you?
If you could just suck it up when you couldn't afford the hit? No offense but if you really can quit any time are you really addicted?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:12 PM
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28. I had withdrawal symptoms, but they were not nearly as strong as tobacco withdrawal symptoms.
So I don't really know the answer to your question.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:25 PM
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29. That is a fair response.
Thank you for the interesting discussion here.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 06:22 AM
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20. Both Cigarettes and Alcohol are legal.
My point was that even for *some* legal drugs people will end up compromising their ethics if they are an Addict not a casual user. These substances have a significant impact on mental function and addicts have huge need for them.

I am not saying every drug user compromises their values or that every drug is equal in this respect. But I think it is safe to say that the majority of people addicted to illegal drugs will compromise their values at some point.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:35 AM
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22. I knew a cig. smoker who would open tea bags to smoke when out of


tobacco and a store.

shudder
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:05 PM
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24. "safe to say that the majority of people addicted to illegal drugs will compromise their values"
Do you have any evidence for this claim? Sounds like a prejudice to me.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:08 PM
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26. Or we may just be defining compromising their values diffrently.
I would count missing your kids soccer game because you were busy getting a fix as likely compromising the values that person would have if they were not an addict. Same with lying to their family to cover the habit etc.

When we talk addicts we are talking about people with a dependency on the drug so they are driven to use it even if things that would otherwise keep them from using get in the way. They will not 'do anything' for their addiction but they will by nature of what addiction is take actions that they would otherwise consider bad to feed the addiction. This is compounded by the drugs mental effects.

Now I would not say the majority steal (for example). I have no idea how many addicts are well off enough to afford their habits. But compromising their values? sure. Few people are even ok with addiction itself.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 10:59 PM
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3. Just wait for the gun worshipers to jump all over you with GOP talking points.
NRA=GOP
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:22 PM
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4. K&R
:kick:
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:27 PM
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5. rec #8, and.... this should go all the way to the top!!! nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-20-09 11:42 PM
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6. Well this is a first

I agree with every word

1) Pelosi abrogated her responsibility. You don't take the constitution 'off the table'. Even if the details go her way, she didn't stand up when she was needed. Reid too.

2) Guns - statistics show that they are used in home homicide and suicides much more than they are in actual protection. For now enforce the guns that we have and require more gun safety.

3) National health care is not even a very liberal issue. In all of the other Democracies all of the other parties support some kind of national health care option. Most 'conservative' parties in other countries have more liberal positions than the Democrats do in the US. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/grantcart/188.


and I like puppies
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:04 PM
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16. Ditto. I cannot say it more coherently...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:51 AM
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7. Wow.
That was an inside-the-park home run you just wrote.

:applause:


"Drug Puppies", in the public lexicon, is a worthy candidate for the 21st century "Trojan Horse".
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:17 AM
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8. Your gun argument isn't all that logical.
Concealed carry rights do not translate into "a right to carry a sniper rifle to the top of the highest building in Austin." I challenge you to openly carry a rifle to the roof of a building in any state that allows concealed carry and not get stopped. You pulled out the strawman argument that "gun nuts say everyone should be carrying!" and make the old claim that concealed carry will turn casual arguments into shootings. The fact is, the people who get concealed carry permits tend to be one of the most law-abiding demographics around. Most states now allow concealed carry, and there's been a distinct lack of impulsive murders by permit holders despite all the panicked claims to the contrary.

The thing is, banning concealed carry on campus doesn't stop mass murderers. You could smuggle a rifle to the top of any building on most college campuses by putting it in a long box and saying you're delivering a piece of furniture. You can ban concealed carry or allow it, and it won't do a thing to stop people with bad intentions from bringing guns onto a college campus. What concealed carry does do is allow people with training and clean criminal records to defend themselves in a pinch, and thus far no one can point to any significant rise in crime and violence brought about by lawful concealed carry.

And lastly, the gun industry isn't the source of the push for concealed carry laws. All gun companies in the US combined make about $2.5 billion a year; the McDonalds Corporation alone makes $12 billion a year. Gun companies don't have the money to aggressively lobby Congress, as gun manufacturing does not have a high profit margin. The gun lobby is the very definition of a grassroots movement; the NRA is supported by its 4 million dues-paying members. If you want more evidence, look to the Internet: I know of at least a hundred pro-gun blogs (whose primary focus is guns and gun rights) and only four dedicated anti-gun blogs, three of which are written by professional lobbyists.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:30 AM
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9. Drug addicts and society are mentioned. What about recreational and medicinal users?
They apparently don't exist.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:21 AM
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10. most drug users are not addicts
so the person who wrote the post was not concerned with users, only addicts.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:06 AM
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11. See my post 2 above. I am not trying to do a comprehensive analysis of any of these issues. I am
just pointing out how special interests like the DEA create false associations or false logic in the public mind in order to protect their own interests.

People who use recreationally should be extra aware of the crazy pr that goes on. Like the whole "crack baby" scare of the 80s and 90s used to justify the War on Drugs aka the War on Black People. Turns out fetal alcohol syndrome is worse than cocaine use in pregnancy, but lobbyists like Dick Army and Grover Norquist who protect the alcohol industry would have cows if anyone started preaching about "Booze babies." The people who sell illegal drugs want them kept illegal, so they also benefit from the wild antics of the DEA.

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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:38 AM
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23. and their latest stuff - 'pot is so much stronger now its dangerous'



garbage, pure garbage
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:29 PM
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14. Nice post about the screaming illogic of RW talking points
On a personal note, my brain stopped when I saw this one on a diabetes discussion group:

A couple of RW posters are trading Repub talking points against single-payer systems. One ranting about possible government provided health care -- how dangerous it would be, how choice-depriving, etc. -- and then mentions he gets his health care at the VA. Never notices he already has and uses government provided health care.

Just amazing.

What do these people use for brains? Well, he sort of froze mine ...

And the "choice" thing ... if we are debating about the uninsured and those without health coverage, they don't have any doctor and would love to have the opportunity to have any choice at all. Amazing that people fall for this "choice" argument as having any relevance at all.

Anyway, thanks for the post puncturing some of this nonsense.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 09:33 AM
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21. The VA is the opposite of choice. It's like being in the army all over again.
Doctors say "Do this" and patients say "Yes sir!"
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 01:42 AM
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19. K&R. a clever exposure of constructed absurd memes and their success
i like it. let's see how many people get the point or get bogged down in details like neurotics in a stationary store.
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