How dare he lecture her. This angers me so much. He is so owned by his and other corporations. He has done much harm to the party.
He tells Pelosi to back off on the CIA stuff, that she does not know what she is talking about. He tells her that Leon Panetta and President Obama are coming out openly against her. That they know best.
The right wing used her as a distraction, now her own party's gravy train consultants are warning her off.
Penn warns Pelosi off CIATo Hon. Speaker Nancy Pelosi:
The accusations that the CIA did not properly disclose its waterboarding activities to you in 2002 are making you a lightning rod for criticism from the right and causing a split within Democratic ranks at a time when party unity is essential for the big fights ahead on health care and energy reform.
President Barack Obama has planted his feet firmly in the center on the war against terror and upped the troop levels in Afghanistan, allowed modified military trials and quashed the torture abuse photos that would have captured headlines and sympathy. Given that, he is making you appear out of step with his strategy and goals.
Leon Panetta is an experienced congressional hand and savvy Washington player — no way would he have dropped the material and tough response defending the CIA on you unless he was certain of the facts. Just out of deference to fellow members of Congress, he would have been extra careful to review the material — and it’s unlikely he released all of this without getting the nod from the White House or without getting at least a tacit OK.
He really gets ugly toward her in this statement. I resent it because I think though I disagree with her at times...she is more on our side than most.
A look at your poll numbers shows that you don’t exactly have the political capital of the other players here — most disapprove of Congress and most disapprove of you. Precisely at a time when Obama is building up as much cross-party support as he can muster on issue after issue — even reaching out to the anti-abortion community — you are seen as going in the opposite direction.
You have 71 percent support among Democrats but only 25 percent support among independent voters, according to a recent Daily Kos poll. Your overall 34-50 unfavorable rating dropped 7 percentage points last week.
He really is a bastard. I know of no other word to use.
He is always "lecturing" or criticizing someone. Remember last year when he warned Obama about returning to his base?
Mark Penn lecturing the Obama campaign. Tells him not to "return to the base."Mark Penn, the high-priced strategist who did such a good early job of launching Hillary Clinton's Democratic presidential campaign to doom at the hands of Obama, tells CBS.com he's worried that the Windy City gang will repeat the mistakes of the last two losing Democratic presidential campaigns by returning to the base after their convention instead of staying more on the convention message of centrism.
Don't return to the base? That is not the kind of "centrism" this party needs. Who does he think he is to lecture our Democrats.
Remember when he went after Al Gore, said he lost because he took a populist turn? He went after John Kerry in 2004. He accused both Gore and Kerry of being divisive.
Mark Penn blasts Gore and KerryBut it was Penn who stated that no other Democrat is tough enough to beat back Sen. John McCain or former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani.
In a clear reference to Obama's lack of political experience on the national stage, Penn wrote: "Some of the commentators look at the ratings of people who have not yet been in the cross-fire, and say they might have a better chance. Recent history shows the opposite."
He then set his sights on Sen. John Kerry and former Vice President Al Gore, who also might run in 2008. "The last two Democratic presidential candidates started out with high favorable ratings and ended up on Election Day - and today - far more polarizing and disliked nationally," said the pollster, who cut his teeth on President Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign.
Here is more of his attacks on Al Gore. He kept using the word populist
as if it were a bad word.Instead of running as a New Economy Democrat, Al Gore used an old-style populism that reduced his appeal rather than expanded it. The message prevented him from reaching the swing voters who could have pushed him over the top. Gore narrowly won the popular vote with this message by piling up large wins in states like California, where extra votes fail to count. But the message sent him tumbling backward in key border states, in his home state and, finally, in the electoral college. Liberal positions on social issues along with populism and big government positions took what could have been a substantial win and turned it into a draw. Had Gore combined his positions of conscience on social issues with a new vision of the role of government, he would have carried a larger percentage of upwardly mobile, socially tolerant suburban men that would have helped him win.
..."Now the tables are turned, and it is Bush who must reach out to Gore's voters to build a new coalition of support or he will fail in governing. Bush must now put together a coalition greater than the 48 percent he received. The voters Bush needs to reach are the DLC Democrats -- concerned about the size of government, but firmly committed to progress on major issues like health care, education, family, and crime.
Mark Penn is the type of Democratic consultant who through the years has made our party afraid to speak out and be honest about things. He is like the ones who have been heading the congressional committees....they shove people out of races who are progressive and shove in their own conservatives.
That is why we probably won't get decent health care through, that is why the GOP gets so much time on the air and on the floor. The GOP never gave us that warm welcome when they were in power. Listening to people like Mark Penn is a big mistake.
Nancy Pelosi has every right to defend herself from the people who lied us into war and planned the torture.
Mark Penn is dead wrong to lecture her.
Printer-friendly format
Email this thread to a friend
Bookmark this thread
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
