Why do we appear to be embarking on the Russian model of government?

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

which is/was: a country openly tolerant of abuse with a highly controlled media, defense spending to the point of madness and bankruptcy followed by dissension and dissolution, followed by an oligarchy creating a society ridden with crime, great wealth and much poverty.

I honestly believe this is the road we are going down and we can already see how it ends.

[BeFree]

1. Yep

We're there already...going down that road rapidly. Stolen elections, a compliant media and government sponsored lies all around.

The racism inherent in the American people enforces all of it, it still surprises me that a black man is president. But that will be the last minority we'll ever see in that position. They are taking him down piece by piece and in the end the blame for all our problems will be his and his alone.

He needs to turn radical... it is his and our only hope. The silent majority must be infused with life and motivation to alter our course or it's over the cliff we go.

[cali]

2. lol and didn't you predict that Obama would NEVER get elected?

why should anyone listen to your predictions?

[BeFree]

5. Yes I did

Because he is black. But after seeing the people coming out of the woodworks in a revolt against the status-quo I was proved wrong. However, now the turnout against the black man will be even larger the next time because of their hate. And since we won't have much change in these 4 years those that did come out last year will stay home.

The people are already going back into their holes or we would see a revolt against Cheney these days.

[cali]

6. pardon me for taking your faulty track record into account

your prognostication skills are highly dubious. I knew he'd win. And he'll likely win re-election. Your attempts to justify your lousy prediction are pretty funny though.

[BeFree]

9. Funny?

I knew he'd win about the time Palin was selected. Until then there was great doubt. But you are all so knowing that we should all just follow you? We should all just give up and bow to the great cali's ideas?

So, then, oh great one, what are the lotto numbers for this week?

I notice you have nothing to say about the basis of my thoughts that racism will be his downfall. Avoidance? Denial? Or do you think most Americans are not racist minded?

[shadowknows69]

23. What do they pay you to stalk and defend the party every day?

There any openings? Oh, never mind. I couldn't stand to have to check my eyes at the door.

[90-percent]

3. comment

If only restoring our shattered democracy back to our Founding Father's intentions was as easy as "Tearing down that wall"*

I have a friend that was behind the Iron Curtain when he was young. He told me: "At least we all knew Pravda was bullshit. American media is now the same as Pravda was and you American's think you are getting the truth in your news!"


-90% Jimmy

*facetiousness

[xchrom]

4. recommend

[KittyWampus]

8. Really? You think we are just "embarking" on this path? As in, it's only just begun?

Since Obama was elected?

The NeoCons weren't the ones who basically play copy-cats to the Soviets

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

11. No, I don't think we started just since Obama has been elected.

It been evolving but moving faster lately. The defense spending has been madness for years, cannibalizing every other facet of spending. But, the growing acceptance of torture is new, at least to me. The condensation of the media into one united right wing chorus has also been evolving slowly, but has now hit critical mass, especially with the increasing disappearance of newspaper journalism. The oligarchical aspects of society are becoming more evident as money is talking more than ever and corrupting the Democratic process at every turn, as we can see in the current health debate. There is more dissension lately as an outgrowth of the take no prisoners political ethos of Rovian politics. Dissolution is being openly talked about, albeit only passingly at the moment by people like Alaskan Secessionists and the Governor of Texas. We are losing much of the middle class due to job loss, real estate downturns, bankruptcies, etc. leading to despair and disparity, hence the predictable divide in economic classes between those with great wealth and those just hanging on. Increased crime is just predictable based on everything else I described. So, it been a snowball that has existed for awhile, but appears to be picking up momentum as we speak.

Now, if you think that my post was anti-Obama motivated, you are mistaken. Did you know that people could discuss things like society in general WITHOUT a "does this flatter or unflatter Obama" filter? Reducing every opinion to that criterion is just ridiculous.

My opinion that we are going down a very bad road can be applied to Republicans and Democrats, progressives, moderates, conservatives and everyone in between. I wish someone, anyone would wake up and put the brakes on!

[xchrom]

12. no -- don't be silly.

the republick party remade itself in the seventies -- this reality we have now
is a result of a long history starting with weyrich, and a whole bunch of republick party people -- underlined with the bullshit that leo strauss was putting out.

i simply agree with a rather obvious parallel.

[Echo In Light]

7. K&R

[suchadeal]

10. Embarking? For the past 200+ years, we've been there.

Read a little history.

[izzybeans]

13. Umm you've just described the U.S. since the begining of the Cold War.

probably before it too.

[glitch]

15. Since FDR was made to have Truman as his running mate instead of Wallace, and then he died. nt

[Vidar]

16. Truman was wonderful, but I wish we could have had Henry Wallace too.

[glitch]

17. He did de-segregate the military, that was a good thing. But how was he wonderful?

Other than his irascible charm, that is ;).

Not being snarky, I really would like to know why you think he was wonderful.

[Vidar]

18. The Marshall Plan, standing up to McArthur.

[glitch]

19. Good answers, especially appointing George Marshall as Secretary of State. nt

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

14. For all the self-appointed wordsmiths obsessed with my use of embarking:

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=embark
S: (v) venture, embark (proceed somewhere despite the risk of possible dangers)

http://freedictionary.org/?Query=Embarking
2. To engage, enlist, or invest (as persons, money, etc.) in
any affair; as, he embarked his fortune in trade.

[Help_I_Live_In_Idaho]

20. We have a constitution....

A bill of rights and separate powers of executive, legislative and judicial. All we have to do is the robber barons out and the health care in. We could wind up on a fascist path if we refuse to deal with our own tyranny - i.e. Cheney, big oil, private army's, and military contractors.

[GreenArrow]

21. locking

Obama does not = Stalin.

[Help_I_Live_In_Idaho]

24. Anybody who thinks that is a possibility is an idiot

:*

[leftstreet]

22. Putin 2012 n/t