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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:08 AM
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Hey all you union folks, and all you scabs that should be union
Edited on Fri May-22-09 10:14 AM by lonestarnot
Intimidation and Harassment.

Threats and Surveillance.

Interrogation and Retaliation.

All standard tactics in the employer anti-union playbook, and during the past decade we've seen these tactics used more and more often.

In a study released this week, Kate Bronfenbrenner, director of Cornell University's School of Industrial and Labor Relations, documents this in detail -- including the increase in corporate tactics to interfere with, block and delay workers' attempts to form unions, and the ineffectiveness of current labor law to protect and enforce workers' rights in the election process.

The study, "No Holds Barred: The Intensification of Employer Opposition to Organizing," examines more than 1,000 union-representation campaigns and finds that "intense and aggressive" tactics to block workers' freedom to form unions are becoming more commonplace.

We need your help to make sure every senator and representative in Washington, D.C., reads this new study. Click here to share this study today.http://www.unionvoice.org/ct/071cd4K1iqZf/

Here are a few highlights (or lowlights) of the study:

During union campaigns, bosses threatened to close plants 57 percent the time and threatened to cut wages and benefits 47 percent of the time.
In more than 60 percent of union campaigns, workers are forced to attend mandatory one-on-one sessions with supervisors and are given anti-union messages or interrogated about their support for a union.
The number of employers using 10 or more identified coercive tactics to intimidate and harass workers has doubled.
When employees actually win an election to form a union, 52 percent still have no contract a year later, and 37 percent are without a contract two years after they voted to join a union.
Want to learn more? Click here to read the full study. (pdf)http://www.unionvoice.org/ct/071cd4K1iqZf/

Don't forget. Make sure to share this study with your senators and representative.
http://www.unionvoice.org/ct/0p1cd4K1iqZv/
In solidarity,

Marc Laitin
AFL-CIO Online Mobilization Coordinator
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:11 AM
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1. Don't see click here link - can you repost?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:12 AM
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2. Thanks will edit.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:14 AM
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4. There you go.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 12:08 PM
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9. thanks!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:14 AM
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3. Last night I saw a short film on anti-union activity by Starbucks.
It was devastating. I thought they only raped the land. :wow:
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:18 AM
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5. So what are you going to do?
Write a very threatening letter to your local newspaper? Or, even more likely to be trashed, to your congressman?

As I've said so many times before, whenever someone claims that unions have power and influence and can make a difference...it's been a long time since River Rouge.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:19 AM
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6. Everything possible!
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:27 AM
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7. That's been done. Labor needs to do the IMpossible.
Like, strikes. Factory closings. Facing down company goons with bats, clubs, or if necessary, firearms.

The only reason unions got their needs addressed, back in the dark ages, was because the bosses were physically afraid that they'd be killed and their property destroyed. They have no such fear now, which is why labor is being bent over a dumpster.

What Sean Connery called "the Chicago way" is the solution to labor's problems. Management brings a knife, you bring a gun. They put a union organizer in the hospital, you put one of theirs in the morgue. That's the Detroit way. And that's how you stop Wal-Mart.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 10:31 AM
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8. Nice.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:50 PM
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11. ah the happy face of violence, its okay because we are the union
you got to be fucking kidding, just because the goons are from the abc or whatever union that does not give them the right to threaten anybody with injury or death.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 12:18 AM
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14. Well, keep on killing trees with your letters to the editor.
Let's see what gets more done; futile arguments to people who don't care, or a fist in the jaw of an oppressor to MAKE him care.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 12:22 AM
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15. and you believe using violence is going to get you what you want
id be real careful, you may not have as many people on your side as you would like to believe, and the violence that you would perpetrate could come back tenfold. Its always a bad day when violence gets introduced to the equation.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:01 AM
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16. Your assigned homework: read history.
Read how the British did not cut ties to their American colonies simply because of a few sharply-written missives to the Crown. Read how Mexico was not willingly granted freedom from Spain with a few witticism. Read how the mineworkers, auto workers and other unions in the United States did not get their freedom from the impassioned hyperbolic speeches of Emma Goldman, but from workers striking, shutting down factories and facing the violence and assassination of the corporations.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:31 PM
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24. Just yesterday you were justifying torture, even saying you'd do it yourself.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:39 PM
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26. yup, and as i said i would do anything to protect my family
aware of the consequences to myself, question is do you really want union goons and company goons going after the workers and each other, i dont as ill be the one having to get in the middle of it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:08 PM
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18. Ask the guys that became the Teamsters how well all your happy horseshit worked.
We are dealing with people that will go to any lengths, including murder, to continue stealing what they want.

You're just a coward who's anxious to do or take anything just so long as nobody hurts you.

As always, those that stand for nothing will fall for, or take, anything.


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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:07 PM
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21. lol yes im a coward,tell you what im the guy who is not going to stand by
and let some idiots no matter what their cause hurt or kill someone because they disagree with them, you want to take a bat to someone because they work at walmart and ill be standing between you ready to defend them.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:25 PM
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27. LOL.
You've got it backward, it was the people that worked at the Walmarts that formed the picket lines, built the unions, and were attacked by the company thugs. Some of the scabs got "busted up" too and that was unfortunate, but the violence was instigated by the owners and their thugs.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 09:29 PM
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28. as i said i dont care whos doing the violence, i was saying the idiot
who wants the unions to start using violence mayby dosnt understand what he may want unleashed.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 12:42 AM
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29. The point is there will be violence, there always is and it is always
started by those that depend on people's abhorrence of violence to get their way. If you will not fight you will lose.

Gandhi did it with one-sided violence, but that was due to the British sense of propriety, they were embarrassed into surrendering and American business suffers no such "weakness".


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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 01:13 AM
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30. good luck with that,i look forward to seeing you start all this off
or will you just stand on the sidelines, i think it will come down to who can afford to hire the fastest and best guns.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:21 PM
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12. Perhaps the last two lines of your post explains why some folks
have a jaundiced view of unions and their members.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 05:08 PM
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17. That isn't bargaining
That's extortion.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:47 PM
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10. K&R
:kick:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:23 PM
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13. local 257 checking in
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:10 PM
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19. K&R
Edited on Sat May-23-09 06:11 PM by Greyhound
We may be approaching the point that enough people say "enough!"
:kick: & R

ETA: Damn, too late to recommend.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:01 PM
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20. my union is the main reason I have a decent salary and reasonable...
...working conditions. That is currently under attack, due to the economic collapse, but my union stands up for me and I stand with the union.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KO90EdKB-g
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 01:38 AM
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31. United we... Divided we... n/t
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:10 PM
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22. What about the people who support anti union companies?
Such as Asian auto makers, such as Honda? I know a discussion board that is full of anti union posters.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:00 AM
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32. And then the same folks say don't shop Walmart because its anti-labor
I have been noticing a pattern here.

Don
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 07:11 PM
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23. Scabs are people who cross the picket line
Non-union members who are eligible to join are more accurately described as parasites, because they derive the benefits of the union without participation.

I was a union member every year I was eligible to join, which was for about 15 years.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 08:09 PM
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25. I'm behind on my DU reading

I would have given it an R if I could.

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