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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:07 PM
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Luntz:Doesn’t matter what Obama’s health care plan says, we’ll still call it ‘government takeover'
from ThinkProgress:



Frank Luntz: It doesn’t matter what Obama’s health care plan says, we’ll still call it ‘government takeover.’

In an interview with the New York Times, GOP wordsmith Frank Luntz — who recently penned a health care messaging memo instructing Republicans to attack President Obama’s health reform efforts by criticizing the deficiencies in foreign health care systems — concedes that Republicans will label Obama’s reform effort a “government takeover” of health care, regardless of the actual proposal:

Is it a correct description of the president’s plans for reform?
We don’t know what he is proposing. We want to avoid “a Washington takeover.”

But that’s not at issue. What the Democrats want is for everyone to be able to choose between their old, private health-insurance plan and an all-new, public health-insurance option.
I’m not a policy person. I’m a language person.


Indeed, “rather than challenging the tenets of American reform proposals, Luntz establishes a straw man argument against a non-existent health plan.” As Democratic strategist Paul Begala observes in a recent retort to the Luntz memo, “Because they know they cannot win the argument honestly, Republicans are resorting to mendacity.”


http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/26/frank-luntz-doesnt-matter/


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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:10 PM
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1. Which is why we should have gone for broke...
No matter, what they're going to act like it's the Second Coming of Lenin, so why not get the most out of their histrionics?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:13 PM
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2. As long as the Reich-in-exile is going to try & smear any program this way
we might as well have an actual government take over of the system. Single payer for everyone!

For that matter, as long as they're going to keep calling Obama a socialist, he might as well move in that direction.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:13 PM
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3. "deficiences in foreign health care systems"
:wtf: about the MASSIVE "deficiencies" in OUR system????

Well, Mr. Luntz, it doesn't matter what you and the rest of the Repukes say, we'll still call you.......................
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:16 PM
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4. Exactly what I expect to hear from an anti-small business ideologue like Luntz.
Fuck you, Luntz.

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:22 PM
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5. Good. When it works, will you still be calling it socialism, Frank?
Frank?...
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:25 PM
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6. 25% agree with ya Luntz. Good luck with that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:32 PM
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7. And, it doesn't matter what the trickster,
luntz, and the party of no call it. If it's suitable and meant to get passed it will.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:35 PM
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8. I just love the picture too
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 08:36 PM
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9. Ooh! even better
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