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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:27 PM
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Judge Sotomayor on First Amendment:
'In a 2002 dissent, Judge Sotomayor said she would have ruled that the First Amendment has a role to play in protecting anonymous racist communications made by a police officer. Saying she found the communications “patently offensive, hateful and insulting,” Judge Sotomayor nonetheless would have allowed the officer’s case against the police department that fired him to proceed to trial.

She said the majority should not “gloss over three decades of jurisprudence and the centrality of First Amendment freedoms in our lives because it is confronted with speech it does not like.”'

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/us/politics/27judge.html?_r=1&hp


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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:29 PM
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1. She's right.
sorry if that doesn't sit well with some.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:32 PM
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2. I thought that the first amendment only protected the pleasant things that people say?
Shows what I know! :evilgrin:
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:36 PM
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4. If it offends or lessens someone's self esteem, its not protected speech
I actually heard that in a discussion of what should be allowed on the university campus. I was dumbstruck
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:42 PM
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6. Yikes!
The dangerous times we live in!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:56 PM
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7. You should have told that person that their words offended you
and therefore, by that person's logic, should be illegal.

Then you should have eaten them.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:32 PM
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3. Yep. The more offensive I find it, the harder I need to fight to protect it.
She is EXACTLY where she needs to be on that issue.


Laura
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:39 PM
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5. People are fired for "speech" every day.
Edited on Tue May-26-09 10:43 PM by TahitiNut
Try talking demeaningly about your employer or your boss ... and the "at will" employment proviso becomes very immediate.

In fact, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" seems to have a LOT of speech-related aspects. :eyes:

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 11:10 PM
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9. There is a rationality missing when words are more important than anything else.
She has an objective mind, the true makings of a liberal. In that opinion she has qualified speech as not omni-important which must really scare the hell out of the wingers


She kind of reads like a loose cannon so i hope it doesn't get her trouble during the process, at any rate this should be fun :-)
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AlexanderProgressive Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 11:08 PM
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8. If she was wrong, Lou Dobbs and Limbaugh would be locked up
Among others.
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