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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:58 PM
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Krikorian: People should stop pronouncing Sotomayor’s name correctly.
Don't give in! Keep pronouncing Spanish names like a real American!

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/27/krikorian-sotomayor/

Krikorian: People should stop pronouncing Sotomayor’s name correctly.

Mark Krikorian of the right-wing Center for Immigration Studies blogs on the Corner today about his outrage over people “eferring” to Sotomayor over the “unnatural pronunciation” of her own name:

Deferring to people’s own pronunciation of their names should obviously be our first inclination, but there ought to be limits. Putting the emphasis on the final syllable of Sotomayor is unnatural in English (which is why the president stopped doing it after the first time at his press conference), unlike my correspondent’s simple preference for a monophthong over a diphthong, and insisting on an unnatural pronunciation is something we shouldn’t be giving in to...

One of the areas where conformity is appropriate is how your new countrymen say your name, since that’s not something the rest of us can just ignore, unlike what church you go to or what you eat for lunch. And there are basically two options — the newcomer adapts to us, or we adapt to him. And multiculturalism means there’s a lot more of the latter going on than there should be.


What’s next? Should people with “unnatural” names “adopt a name just for identification purposes that’s easier for Americans to deal with“?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:01 PM
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1. IIRC, the correct pronunciation for Krikokian is:
"Shithead" with equal emphasis on the first and second syllables.

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:07 PM
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4. Cri-cokey-an?
Edited on Wed May-27-09 02:15 PM by Ganja Ninja
No wait, Cri-cory-an :shrug:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:02 PM
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2. The "newcomer" who was born and raised in the Bronx
These "new countrymen" are just nuts :crazy:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:02 PM
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3. OK, line up, and let's draw straws -
who's gonna be the one to tell this dickwad that this is America in 2009?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:48 PM
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23. You'd have to tattoo it on the inside of his eyelids for it to work
Hey....Any tattooists in the house?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:07 PM
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5. Unnatural names
That's what most of us Polacks have had to do. Well, except for Zbigniew Brzezinski, he didn't make any accommodation for mush-mouth Americans.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:12 PM
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6. What exactly is a "natural" American name?
Krikorian?

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:14 PM
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7. I'm going to call him Mark Smith
I'm not going to "give in" to the pressure to call him by his actual name.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:15 PM
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9. Sacawajea?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:14 PM
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8. Well ain't *that* the Krikorian calling the Sotomayor black...

:eyes:
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:26 PM
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10. Wasn't it some Texas Congress person who said....
That Chinese people should have names that are easier to pronounce? How about not be lazy and learning how to pronounce things. You don't have to get the mechanics down pat, just try a bit.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:32 PM
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11. And this, I give you, is the best they got.
and I should be worried about the repukes why?

they are now getting down to twisting peoples names to look cool.

well, since they act like they are 7 years old, this falls right in line with their mentality.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:33 PM
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12. And this, I give you, is the best they got.
and I should be worried about the repukes why?

they are now getting down to twisting peoples names to look cool.

well, since they act like they are 7 years old, this falls right in line with their mentality.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:33 PM
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13. Shouldn't he be out
Working on a eugenics plan or something?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:34 PM
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14. Fuck the xenophobic.
dissing pig.
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:36 PM
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15. I'd like to know how the idiot pronounces his own
"foreign" Armenian name :eyes:

Technically it's Kreekoree-yahn, with emphasis on the last syllable.

Is it ok with you, Mark, if I pronounce it Krye kor ain???

Jesus effing christ!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:37 PM
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16. LOLZ...remember this the next time some DUer tries to cite CIS as a valid source for immigration
facts.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:38 PM
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17. Great idea, Mr. Creh-core-EE-an.
Emphasis on the second syllable of a four syllable name has to be on the penultimate syllable to be American.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:30 PM
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18. Krikorian is pronounced 'Smith', yes?
Krikorian is pronounced 'Smith', yes? Otherwise it sounds... unnatural.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:40 PM
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20. I agree.
"Krikorian" sounds too ethnic.

:-)
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:46 PM
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22. Every time I see one of your posts...
Every time I see one of your posts I am reminded of the song, Calico Girlfriend, by Mike Nesmith-- damn you :P
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:49 PM
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24. Krikorian sounds too much like Kryptonite; alien and possibly harmful to super heroes.
Does anyone know if Krikorian has been vetted?
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:19 AM
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29. Actually, it's pronounced "ESHEK"
"Eshek" is the American Armenian way of saying "asshole"

:evilgrin:
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:35 PM
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19. And we should pronounce Boehner as Boner not Baner? Hmmm. Ok.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 09:13 PM
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26. It's like Stephanie Miller always says--
"When two vowels go walkin' the first one does the talkin'." :rofl:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:44 PM
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21. They still haven't even nailed Cheney
Lynn Cheney has said on TV that it's CHEE-nee. Now her daughter is saying it's CHAY-nee. Maybe they're taking a page out of Ronald REE-gan's book.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 03:49 PM
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25. Seems to me it may be derived from "mejor" and anyone who knows Spanish
knows that "mejor" is pronounced with emphasis on the second syllable.

Idiotas (Krikorian et al)
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:23 AM
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30. Actually "mayor" would be translated to mean
"elder" or "senior" depending on the context. But you are correct, the emphasis is on the second syllable so it is ma-YOR.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:31 AM
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36. Or "bigger," or "biggest." -nt
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 09:17 PM
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27. They got nothin'
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 02:03 AM
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28. Here in California we have no problem pronoucing her name correctly
soh toh mai YOR

Be sure to give the final r a light twirl. If you are from the northeast, this may take some getting used to, but it is something that makes Spanish a beautiful language which to listen.

Samuel Taylor Coleridge, himself a recognized master of the English language, said that in his opinion Spanish is the best language for poetry.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:25 AM
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31. There are a lot of us Hispanics in the North East too.n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:26 AM
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32. OK from now on everyone's names are John Doe and Jane Doe
Problem solved. Unless everyone prefers to go by a number, but only in English 'cause those french numbers are way too hard to remember, much less pronounce.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:27 AM
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33. Who is this Kivorkian dude, anyway?
Edited on Thu May-28-09 09:28 AM by kentuck
:-)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:29 AM
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34. The mayor of De Soto, TX may be annoyed by the confusion. -nt
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:29 AM
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35. Moron should change HIS name...
How the hell do you pronounce Kirkorian? It's kinda weird. All those K's keep getting stuck in my throat, plus that weird as hell "orian" thing at the end. He should change it!
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:37 AM
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37. This from the people...
...who go out of their way to pronounce "Iraq" the most difficult way possible: Eye-Rack.

It's not about ease of pronunciation. It's about finding ways to insult people and trying to look like a victim while doing it.

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