Maryland, blue, Democratic Maryland ........ is the home of the Holocaust Museum's neo nazi shooter

[Stinky The Clown]

So reports MSNBC .......

The stereotype is that guys like Von Brunn come from Idaho or Alabama or Texas.

This proves that stereotypes are wrong.

He hails from Maryland. And not even the deep red part of the state (yes, there are several deep red parts of the state), but from generally blue Annapolis.

[AspenRose]

1. Mmmm, a lot of those places outside Annapolis are quite conservative

I wouldn't feel safe in some of those Annapolis outskirts, that's for sure....

[Solomon]

24. Annapolis is not exactly blue.

And anything east of here is redder than red.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

2. according to a witness, he was wearing a "Confederate hat"

Heritage indeed!

[LynneSin]

3. I've driven thru NE Maryland and seen Confederate Flags

You have cities like Baltimore and the DC suburbs that keep Maryland Blue but outside those areas it's just like rural Pennsylvania.

[PunkinPi]

4. There are some scary parts of the Eastern Shore of MD,

I used to live there.

ETA: link http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3916062#3916166

[Lilyeye]

5. Wow. I'm from MD, but I'm not shocked.

After the election I realized just how conversative and narrow minded some people here were despite it being a blue state.

[Lilyeye]

6. Carroll County is another deeply red part of MD.

I have some jobs out there and some of the stuff I heard about Obama during the election were just downright disgusting.

[RufusTFirefly]

7. I hail from Maryland too.

And when you get outside a few populous enclaves, the state is alarmingly red.

[Richardo]

8. Many people do not paint entire states with one broad brush.

What does it matter what state he lived in?

[TornadoTN]

28. With all of the South bashing around here, I think it's a good point

I do like your point thought - we should never paint states with a broad brush.

[T Wolf]

9. The true schism in this ocuntry is urban versus rural, not state vs. state. It is just

that most of the "red" states don't have much in the way of large, diverse, urban areas. So, the rubes in the sticks can cancel out the sane people in the cities.

Deep country is red, no matter if it is Texas or Alaska.

[AspenRose]

21. I agree

[Ishoutandscream2]

22. Seconded

[Taverner]

10. I know some hateful Right Wingers in Berkeley, CA

Address doesn't mean as much as what you say...

[RufusTFirefly]

12. Point taken. The diehards will stick to their guns regardless. But even so,

... many people who don't already hold firm or fully formed convictions can be susceptible to the local zeitgeist

[Taverner]

13. Yes, true that

And if the local crazies run the schools, the government and the churches, that community isn't exactly going to churn out any humans worth wasting oxygen on...

[deutsey]

11. Apparently, he lives on the Eastern Shore

I live on the Shore and would have to say it's not "blue." There are some purple areas around here (like where I live), but it's mostly a red state mentality on the rural Shore and in rural Western Maryland too. What makes Maryland blue overall is the heavily populated Montgomery County/Baltimore-Annapolis area.

[Stinky The Clown]

17. That bio notwithstanding, the teevee noozers are acknowledging that but say he now lives ...........

..... in Annapolis

[WI_DEM]

14. So? shootings happen every day even in blue states.

[redqueen]

16. Lots of DUers enjoy trash-talking red states...

somehow I doubt this information will dissuade them.

[Lilyeye]

19. True. I've seen a poster some weeks ago saying that racism was only a problem in southern red states

And that their area in Cali pretty much had no racism. :eyes: I couldn't believe someone would say that.

[Stinky The Clown]

18. I'm actually defending the regions that always seem to get trashed. So?

[tularetom]

15. My brother lives in Fredneck County MD

At least that's what he calls it. Actually I have some questions about the color of his neck.

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Teevee noozers changing story. Now say he lives in Easton, not Annapolis

Easton is on the Eastern Shore. Very red part of the state. An active KKK Chapter there (or was, until recently).

[Ghost in the Machine]

23. The whole East Coast Chapter of the Aryan Brotherhood was based in Maryland for years...

... before moving to Pennsylvania...

Check with the SPLC, there's more hate groups in the north than there is in the south.., or at least more reported incidences of hate crimes

[kwassa]

25. The Eastern shore is more like the South than the rest of Maryland

Mostly poor agricultural area, with tourist enclaves on the ocean and Chesapeake Bay.

I go over there all the time; my wife's family is from there, and a huge number of relatives live there. My wife said there were active Klan groups in some of the small towns. Her cousin lived in Easton for awhile, which is where Von Brunn lived for a long time. Most of his years in Maryland have been over there. This part of the shore has traditionally has been extremely segregated. My wife was the first to desegregate a previously all-white school as a kindergartner in 1965 in Centerville.

Socially, it is still segregated and pretty backwards.

here is an example from the Baltimore Sun.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/easternshore/bal-md.somerset20may20,0,5468602.story

Racial gap lingers in Somerset, groups say
Blacks missing from top jobs, ACLU, NAACP find
By Laura Smitherman | [e-mail]
May 20, 2009

Decades of racial strife have left their mark on Somerset County, the American Civil Liberties Union and the NAACP said Tuesday as they called on leaders of the Eastern Shore county to ensure minorities get better access to good-paying school and government jobs.

In a report, the groups noted that no African-American has ever been elected or appointed to a top job in county government, and that no African-American was employed by the county in a professional capacity in 2007, according to the latest statistics submitted to the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

The county's population is 42 percent African-American.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Ah, but he was originally from Missouri.

And spent a few years recently in Idaho associating with various Idaho white supremacist organizations.

[theHandpuppet]

27. Hate groups and attacks in Maryland

I just wanted to point out that a few years ago I had posted several threads to DU regarding a rash of hate crimes that had taken place in the greater Baltimore area. My question at the time was why these attacks got so little coverage by the media. I stated at the time that domestic terrorists were alive and well in Maryland and some investigation into active hate groups there was warranted.

Link to my journal entry: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/theHandpuppet/53

Listen up, folks!
Posted by theHandpuppet in General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007)
Mon Aug 07th 2006, 12:00 PM
There have been a rash of unsolved hate crimes going on in the Baltimore area for some time now. The targets have been mostly synagogues and churches with predominantly black congregations. The only reason you haven't heard about them is because the MSM wasn't interested. They're only interested NOW because the current bloody conflict in the ME sells advertizing space or gets people to tune in to their latest "all war, all the time" programs.

Furthermore, where was the interest in said hate crimes when I posted no fewer than THREE THREADS on this subject earlier this year? I'll tell you what happened to them -- they sank like stones. Seems the MSM aren't the only ones who weren't interested.

Here are the threads in question, which I pulled from my journal. Note the first one included reports of a rash of hate crimes aimed at the Jewish community:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x107058
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x317917
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x137418

The slimebags who attacked Baltimore's Hebrew University didn't just pop up out of nowhere. They've BEEN there all along and what I want to know is, why the lack of interest -- lack of interest by the public, by the MSM, by DU, by the law enforcement officials who are supposed to be investigating these hate crimes?

I have to question those who say this particular attack in Baltimore just came out of the blue or suddenly arose as a result of what's happening between Lebanon and Israel. There is something very nasty going on in Maryland and it's called domestic terrorism. Anyone find it curious that a Maryland military base near Baltimore was also the source for the anthrax attacks?