Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Iran: Faulty Election Data

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
caduceus111 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:07 PM
Original message
Iran: Faulty Election Data
Iran’s Interior Ministry has declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner of yesterday’s election. This has been rejected by all the three opponents of Mr. Ahmadinejad, Messrs Mir Hossein Mousavi, Mahdi Karroubi, and Mohsen Rezaaee.

The best evidence for the validity of the arguments of the three opponents of the President for rejecting the results declared by the Interior Ministry is the data the Ministry itself has issued. In the chart below, compiled based on the data released by the Ministry and announced by Iran’s national television, a perfect linear relation between the votes received by the President and Mir Hossein Mousavi has been maintained, and the President’s vote is always half of the President’s. The vertical axis (y) shows Mr. Mousavi’s votes, and the horizontal (x) the President’s. R^2 shows the correlation coefficient: the closer it is to 1.0, the more perfect is the fit, and it is 0.9995, as close to 1.0 as possible for any type of data.

Statistically and mathematically, it is impossible to maintain such perfect linear relations between the votes of any two candidates in any election — and at all stages of vote counting. This is particularly true about Iran, a large country with a variety of ethnic groups who usually vote for a candidate who is ethnically one of their own. For example, in the present elections, Mr. Mousavi is an Azeri and speaks Turkish. The Azeries make up 1/4 of all the eligible voters in Iran and in his trips to Azerbaijan province, where most of the Azeri population lives, Mr. Mousavi had been greeted by huge rallies in support of his campaign. Likewise, Mr. Karroubi, the other reformist candidate, is a Lor. But according to the data released by Iran’s Interior Ministry, in both cases, Mr. Ahmadinejad has far outdone both candidates in their own provinces of birth and among their own ethnic populations.




http://tehranbureau.com/2009/06/13/faulty-election-data/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:09 PM
Response to Original message
1. The R^2 alone...
Errr, yeah, no.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:10 PM
Response to Original message
2. Nate Silver, statistician, disagrees...
But there is disagreement with his disagreement, claiming that Nate's results depend heavily on how he selected the progression of votes.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/statistical-evidence-does-not-prove.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Nate Silver knows a lot, but not a lot about election fraud specifically, IMHO. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. (shrug) We'll see who's right about that particular detail in the fullness of time...
The overall theft, evidence adduced by Cole and others, has not been impugned, however.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
5. That is so obviously election rigging and I'm by a long shot no statistician.
That kind of linearity in something as complex as an election involving millions of voters is simply impossible.

A bit off-topic, but I noticed that the person who made the chart uses a different Romanization of the names of the candidates than I usually see.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC