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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:20 AM
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I saved an old man's life today....and nobody else cared.
Two cars ahead of me dodged around an old man in pajamas and slippers, walking with a cane down the center of a freeway onramp (southbound Governor Drive exit to 805 in San Diego).

I couldn't believe nobody else stopped to help him, as he was obviously on the verge of collapse.

We pulled over and asked if he needed help. He was obviously very confused, probably an Alzheimer's patient who wandered away from a facility somewhere, though there were no such facilities or even residences anywhere close by. Or maybe someone had dumped this poor man off and abandoned him.

He had a large wad of hundred dollar bills and asked us to give him a ride to a casino. He was very red in the face, gasping for breath, and clutching his chest each time he spoke. He told us his name, but couldn't remember where he lived or how he'd gotten there. I asked his phone number, but when I called it was disconnected.

We called 911 and got him to sit in our car while we waited a full 10 minutes for CHP to arrive, with the fire dept. on the scene shortly after. They took him to a hospital for medical treatment. I don't know who he was or what happened to him, and don't know if we'll ever find out. There is nothing on the news about him, and I can only hope that someone reported him missing.

Please folks, don't ever hesitate to stop and help a fellow human being in need. I shudder to think what might have happened to this kindly old man if we had not pulled over.

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:22 AM
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1. I care.
I applaud what you did. I don't understand folks that won't stop to help a person obviously in need.

Well done.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:24 AM
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2. good on you.
the way we treat the mentally ill and the infirm in this state is a fucking shame.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:27 AM
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4. This is a faith-in-humanity-restored story. Thank you for for being the one who did it...
:hug:

I hope he's all right now.

Hekate


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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:49 PM
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74. Where does the faith in humanity come in - out of tens of people only one stopped to help?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:26 PM
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88. BECAUSE of that one...
O8)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:14 PM
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98. And thankfully the one who stopped to help WASN'T the one
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 08:14 PM by rocktivity
who took the man's money and tossed him in a gutter.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:28 AM
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5. Bless you and I'm not talking like a Christian. Blessings come from many traditions.
I hope that this poor soul got a better place to live than the one that let him wander away in his pajamas and slippers. You are blessed for caring.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:28 AM
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6. Dupe!
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 01:29 AM by Cleita
I'm really not liking the update on my browser.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:28 AM
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7. You're a good person. We need more.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:33 AM
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8. I care.
It takes only a moment to make an impression on someone's life forever. Even if they will never remember it.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:38 AM
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9. Thank you for helping LB.
Too many stories like this end really badly. I bet his family is grateful tonight that their elder is safe again tonight. :hug:
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:48 AM
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10. You did a good thing. A very good thing.
It's a shame how we treat each other in this country.

America, where most of the population just don't give a fuck.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:05 AM
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11. bless you bless you bless you
You are so kind. Thank you so much. :loveya:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:08 AM
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12. you did good
I know for sure I would have done the same - I help anyone I see in distress
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:24 AM
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13. Thank you. That could have been any one of us or any of our best friends or family.
Or a stranger to us and family to another. Or family to no one and utterly alone. None of that matters. Doing good is just doing good.

Thank you.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:38 AM
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14. That was one fortunate man.
:hug:
:grouphug:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:40 AM
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15. I care and I thank you.
Having worked in facilities where people with Alzheimer's elope, am always grateful when someone takes the time to help them get back home
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:44 AM
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16. I care.
I have a record of stopping to help people (and animals)

I FUCKING CARE.

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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:47 AM
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17. Keep walking the walk
It's all any of us can do. Good on you.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:58 AM
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18. THANK YOU ... that could've been my father
about 4 years ago. My father had dementia and wandered out of the hospital (how they let him escape I don't know but that's another story) luckily my brother and I found him ourselves before he came to harm, he was probably at least a half mile away. I'm glad to know there are people out there like you who look out and care about others. :hug:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:43 PM
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49. My Dad died last year of Alzheimer's. This could easily have been him,
if he'd ever managed to wander away from the facility that was caring for him. I'm glad you and your brother found your Dad before he got hurt.
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:59 AM
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19. Thanks. We need more people like you.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:02 AM
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20. Add Me to the List . . .

. . . of people who care. What you did was heroic. Thanks for being such a good person. :-)
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:11 AM
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21. on Sunday we were hiking in a deep canyon
and ran into some people carrying a blow up raft who thought they could just paddle down the whole gorges de Verdun. The problem is they could not and were walking on a trail which ended where there was a pile of rocks, very dangerous to get over, and under which the river ran. We told them not to go in the water there as it was too dangerous. They were unprepared, had bad shoes for walking etc. So we told them where to walk to meet us at our car on top of the gorges (1000 feet up) we all walked up after our hike, waited for the guy carrying the boat, gave them 3 litres of water, and drove them back to their car. Why? because you cannot just let people kill themselves through folly. We could not just let people walk 30 km with a setting sun, we could not just let some city folks from Marseille die from the heat or dehydration.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:27 PM
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42. Good on you! I don't understand why people don't speak up more in instances like this
I can only imagine with so many other people there would have been a news story about these novices the next day and a quote from a passerby saying, "They didn't look like they knew what they were doing, but I didn't think it was any of my business to tell them not to."

Thank god, they passed by you instead.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:11 AM
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115. acutally, here in France
people quite often get involved and help others. My parents told me it reminds them of what it was like when they grew up in the 50's and 60's in the USA.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:02 AM
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22. A lot of people care, but you also need to be careful.
If nothing else the CHP officers and the EMTs are probably profoundly grateful that they dealt with a confused old man instead of an auto-pedestrian accident.

But something like that could be a setup for a robbery or carjacking. After Katrina, my g/f let a family of NO flood victims move into her house. Turns out that they had scammed FEMA and Red Cross and were not Katrina victims at all. They were actually from Fresno and running from the law.

It's wonderful that you took the risk to help that gentleman, but there are good reasons why people may not stop and help in those kinds of situations and it's not because they are callus and heartless.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:07 AM
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24. There are times to be wary and times like this where I think it's obvious
That it is just a person in need. Point well made though and it does take courage to care these days.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:45 PM
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51. The thought crossed my mind but no thief would be nuts enough to walk in front of head-on traffic
and he couldn't have faked the red face etc...
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:35 PM
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81. Risk
If you want to be a human being you have to take risks, otherwise you're not a human being.

I didn't stop that old man because, who knows, he might be bait.
I didn't give those folks stranded in the desert any water because I might have needed it myself some day.
I didn't jump in the water to save that kid because I might have drowned.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:05 AM
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23. You rock!
:thumbsup: I just wish that good people like you outnumbered the uncaring masses. Sadly I'm afraid it isn't so.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:16 AM
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25. Thanks for caring
K & R
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:21 AM
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26. It's hard to imagine we live in a society where people will drive by someone like this man.
It's very sad. If not for you, he probably would have been run over.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:06 AM
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27. Bless you for doing what you did!
An old man wandering around in pajamas on an offramp is not simply someone "going to a casino." He was obviously not mentally alert. Good for you for saving his life. :hug:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:25 AM
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28. As much of a cynic as I have become.
People like you give me hope, LB.

:hug:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:30 AM
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29. the irony didn't escape me that you have the name of a superhero
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:40 AM
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30. Back in 1984, when I was 34 years old, the man I was dating and I were driving
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 08:42 AM by tblue37
along a residential street, heading out to a movie. We spotted a very young girl, perhaps 3 years old, perhaps a few months younger, peddling her 3-wheeler along the side of the street. I told him to stop so I could do something about her. He was very concerned when I got out of the car, because he was afraid someone would think we were trying to kidnap her.

I had to knock on two doors before I found out whom she belonged to. When I went to the right house, her mother was watching TV, and she had allowed this little baby to play outside by herself in the front yard!

After the situation was resolved, my boyfriend told me that if I had not been with him, he would have gone to a gas station to call the police, but he would not have stopped to deal directly with the little girl himself, for fear of being accused of being a child molester or a kidnapper.

I told him that by the time he called the cops, the kid could easily have been run over, since she was peddling in the direction of a much busier thoroughfare less than a block away, and the street we had found her on wasn't exactly devoid of traffic, either. But he insisted that no man would take a risk like that, and that he had been very nervous when I insisted on stopping and actually picking up the child and her 3-wheeler to get her out of the street.

It happens in stores and other public places, too. I keep coming across small children left to wander on their own. Of course, I always stop to make sure the kid gets back to his or her adult, but it really freaks me out, and with kids, the fact that so many people--not just men, but especially men--are afaid of being accused if they try to help a child really concerns me.

With an old man, though, such fears would not arise, so there was no excuse for those who didn't stop for him.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 12:46 AM
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112. My sister-in-law once left her three-year-old in the backyard
for a minute while she went into the house. She didn't realize that the family dog had dug a hole under the side fence. Her little boy slipped through and was actually out in the street. A passing car stopped. The driver retrieved the child, went to my sister-in-law's door and read her the riot act. She had no idea he'd escaped the yard and was so relieved that someone took the time to stop and bring him to safety. Never made that mistake again.

The last thing anyone should worry about when rescuing someone from a dangerous situation is how it's going to be perceived. It's understandable but regrettable that it's even an issue.
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pmorlan1 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:01 AM
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31. Good for You!
Thanks, Liberty Belle. I wish more people would care about what happens to others. I was driving home one night and saw someone riding a bicycle in the middle of the lane on a busy street. It was dark enough that it was very hard to see this person (bike had no light or reflectors). I just knew that if this person stayed on this main drag that eventually he might be hit. Instead of passing him as the car in front of me had done, I stayed behind him to act as a kind of shield for him. Eventually he turned off onto a less busy side street where he was no longer in harms way. It took me more time to get home because of this but if I had it to do all over I'd do it again. It was such a little thing to do in order to possibly save someone from injury or death yet sadly a lot of people would not have done this. They would have passed this man in order to keep from being delayed in their own travels, leaving him behind to possibly be struck by the next car who may not have seen him in time.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:38 PM
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46. What a wonderful act of kindness!
I have this notion that when we act in ways that help others, that kindness may come back to us. Even if it doesn't we can feel good about ourselves for having done the right thing.

Blessings!
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:07 AM
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32. You're a true hero. Thank you for doing what you did.
:thumbsup:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:31 AM
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33. Well done.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:33 AM
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34. Thank you for caring and for taking the time to help him.
:applause: :yourock:

The world needs more people like you. :hug:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 12:41 PM
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35. How much of the cash did you keep?
(just kidding)
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:50 PM
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55. None, even though my dog needs surgery and I have some major financial needs.
It would be stealing to take money from an old man with dementia.

Though if a kind-hearted relative were to call and offer a reward, I would not be above accepting that. ;-)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:56 PM
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58. Well, I think you deserve a reward
Who knows, maybe there's one on the way as we type!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 12:43 PM
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36. Thank you for being good.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 12:47 PM
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37. thank you
you really shouldn't be the exception, but you are. :-(
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 12:56 PM
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38. I stopped and tried to help a guy two weeks ago.
Probably a drunk; possibly mentally disturbed. Anyway, he'd collapsed in a heap near a track where I like to run.

I almost passed him by, but I thought: "What if I hear about some guy dying in the paper tomorrow?"

So I stopped to look in on the guy. Who proceeded to weigh in with a profanity-laced rant that my daughter heard, and which probably traumatized her a bit. But that's life.

Anyway, I don't regret having stopped, and I'm glad you did as well.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:29 PM
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43. Glad that you still maintain your perspective on helping, despite the outcome in this situation.
What your daughter will always remember from that day is not the profane tirade, but that we must look out for our fellow man.

At least we have to try, as you did!

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:01 PM
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39. He's lucky you came along.
Glad you cared enough to stop.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:12 PM
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40. Thank you.
In helping save the gentleman, you helped save all of us.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:27 PM
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41. We care.
Doing a good deed is its own reward. The people who didn't care, didn't stop, didn't want to risk an inconvenience...they're the ones missing out on life.

Thank you.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:34 PM
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44. The world needs more people like you LB!
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 01:35 PM by rvablue
Yes, it is very sad how so many just "don't want to get involved" or maybe they really just don't care.

You are good soul for what you did. That poor man. And it's frightening to think about could have happened had you not crossed paths with him.

I always step in when I see situtations like this. And I can't imagine when I look around at others that just pass by, what they are thinking or feeling??

I see it as an obligation and frankly, as a blessing, that an average person like me, by doing the easiest of things: stopping to help, can make the biggest difference!



((edited to add: other people saw your kind act today....I'd like to believe that will influence them in the future when they come across something similar!!))
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:34 PM
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45. Bless you for that kind act.
And may the good karma come back quickly.

:loveya:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:38 PM
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47. I'm glad you were there...
People get so involved in their own lives, where they have to go, and what time they have to be there...

How lucky for him that you don't belong to the self-absorbed set. :hug::hug::hug:
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:43 PM
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50. I would have sat him down and "taught" him how to play poker.
No seriously. Good job!!

I've been in similar situations twice. Once I picked up an elderly man "escaping" from a nursing home walking on a dangerous part of a highway and another time my friend and I yanked an elderly woman out of a car that drove on to railroad tracks at night mistaking them for a road.

Makes you feel good.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:47 PM
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52. You've racked up some good karma, I'd say! Thanks for caring.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:48 PM
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53. It was the right and good thing to do
I really hope that that gentleman is okay and they were able to find out who he was. There have been so many days when I feel discouraged by all of the selfishness, apathy and hate in this world. That's why I love reading things like this because it reminds me that there are still good and caring people in this world.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:48 PM
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54. I care..thank you :)
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:55 PM
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56. Thanks for making me feel good. You are truly a good samaritan.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 01:56 PM
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57. You are to be congratulated
Of course, it should be no big deal--this should be what folks do naturally, but, all too often, it is not.

BTW, in some areas, 10 minutes counts as a pretty good response time.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:09 PM
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59. What happened to the roll of hundreds? just kidding! Well done. nt
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BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:22 PM
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60. well done!
Provides a good role model for the rest of us!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:27 PM
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61. Thank you
I care. Maybe it's because I'm nearing that age where I may be found in the middle of the road looking for somewhere, anywhere. I love you for what you've done :hug:
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:28 PM
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62. Nice to hear someone is
a decent person.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:29 PM
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63. Thank you for being there for him. Pathetic that no one else stopped.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:37 PM
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64. I believe in karma or supreme justice or whatever. You've got some good things coming to you! nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:49 PM
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65. I grew up in a little rural town where such behavior is expected out of everyone. When I moved...
...to Fargo I was shocked by how it seemed like nobody cared.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 02:52 PM
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66. "They took him to a hospital for medical treatment."
What hospital these days will treat someone off the street who has no ID or proof of insurance? Reminded of the hospitals in LA that were dumping homeless and poor people, still wearing their hospital gowns, on Skid Row. I hope that is not the fate of this unfortunate man.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:14 PM
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67. Thank you!
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:20 PM
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68. Years ago, my wife and I were driving down the street in Portland Oregon.
We saw an elderly man fall on the sidewalk about half a block up from us. By the time we drove that half block and got out of our car several other cars had already stopped and were on their cell phones getting help. My wife and I just left to make room for the professionals.

Some places are just better than others.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:23 PM
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69. When I was in college, I saved a guy from getting beaten to death
I was coming back onto campus with some friends after making a beer run and saw something going on over in the parking lot of a food place called Hungry Herman's.

There was this big guy wearing heavy, hard boots kicking the hell out of a man who was thinner than himself. They both looked very redneck in terms of their clothes and generally scruffy appearance. The big guy was kicking the smaller guy in the head and face when I looked over.

What got me was there was a group of students (many of them guys who looked like they worked out) sitting or standing around in the parking area just watching this happen. The area was a stop on the campus bus route, and there was a bus idling there with the driver sitting at the wheel, also just watching.

Setting down the 12-pack I was carrying, I immediately went over to where the beating was occuring. I don't even remember thinking about it, honestly. Holding my hands in the air non-threateningly, I approached the two guys. I became dimly aware that two small female students (they looked like freshmen or sophomores, age-wise) had also joined me. I remember repeating to the big guy, "Hey, man, stop, you're going to kill him. You're going to KILL him."

That got the big guy to stop kicking and, after yelling at the thin guy about staying away from his sister or daughter or something, he went away. The two girls and I helped the thin guy to sit up...he was dazed and had blood all over his face, which was already swollen. It looked like he had some severe damage to eye. I ran over to the bus and, kind of pissed off, snapped at the bus driver to radio for help. I remember he just said very non-chalantly that he already had.

I still can't figure out how people could just sit there and watch this happen.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:01 PM
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76. Bravo to you! Yes, sometimes people just need something to shock them back to reality.
And you probably saved that kid's life.

I guess many standing around would tell you they were afraid if they said something, the guy would come after them. But what we all need to keep in mind when we see this happening to others is: what if I were that kid being kicked in the head?

I had a similar situation like this not long ago. Drove into a shopping center parking lot and there were two guys beating the shit out of each other.

I just drove up to them, layed on my horn, opened my door and yelled, "Stop it!" And you know what? They immediately stopped.

There must have been at minimum 30 people standing around watching them like it was a tennis match or something. And while someone called the police, no one thought to just yell at them to cut it out....

I don't know. Part of me thinks, some like to watch, some are afraid the violence will be aimed at them, but I think sadly enough, I think a lot of people are just TOO SELF CONSCIOUS (i.e. I'll look like a fool if I say something because nobody else is doing anything).

I think this OP is a fascinating point of discussion and I'm glad to read comments like your's: that there are people out there who will speak up!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:23 PM
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70. Good for you!
I had a similar incident with a senior wandering around in the hot sun. There was a nursing home nearby, which is where I think he had wondered away from.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:27 PM
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71. Thank you for saving his life, LB!
You care and took him in, away from danger.

Thank you for caring and helping him.

I don't understand people who can walk/turn away
from someone in need, especially an older person
who is very vulnerable.

Bless you!

:loveya: :hug:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:38 PM
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72. You just don't get it - when you see something unusual like that
you're supposed to be SCARED! DON'T pull over! He might assault you with his cane and steal your car!

How can you justify taking such a RISK!


(And thank you for taking it - we should all do the same.)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:45 PM
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73. I'm both enraged and thankful.
Angry at those who don't care. Just disgusted.

But yet cheerful and happy that there are people like you around still. In this age of impatience, someone stopped to help.

If I try to imagine myself just driving by, I might be able to. When we think of how much is out there that we are divorced from, it's easy to imagine. Youtube, horrible news stories. They tend to distance us from reality. I think people feel threatened. I think it's a country of cowards and careless in a hurry.

Thank you for taking the time to care. I have faith again.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 03:51 PM
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75. There was a famous incident in the 60s... or infamous...
in which a guy whose car had broken down on a freeway in California waited hours upon hours for someone, anyone, to pull over and offer help. No one stopped. He was found dead, much later, right by his car, a suicide. He left a note saying that he didn't want to live in such a world.
Am I the only person who remembers this news story?
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:46 PM
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82. I don't remember it, but it reminded me of my dad.....
I woke up one morning to find a family of four sleeping in our living room (early 60's). On my dads way home from work one evening he came across this family who's car had broken down. They had just moved to california looking for work and didn't have Friends or family in the area. My dad was working class, with six children, but there was always room for someone in need in our home.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:03 PM
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77. You're right
I've found as a rule society in general doesn't care.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:21 PM
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109. I think society is being ingrained with this kind of attitude
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 11:24 PM by Art_from_Ark
For example, I was reading the student handbook of a college that a family member is considering attending, and it starts out by saying "We want you to have an enjoyable time at our school". But then it devotes the next 15 pages or so to the dangers that students will be facing, such as:

Is someone being nice to you? They could be setting you up for a scam.
Invited to an off-campus party? Better be careful-- there's a good chance someone will try to get you hooked on drugs there.
Beware of people who seem too friendly-- they could be buttering you up to get you to join their cult.
That guy who always smiles at you every day as you go to school? He could be a stalker.
If you get invited to a weekend retreat, chances are that there's an ulterior motive.

Wow. After reading through that, it seems that the only things that students could trust were events that were strictly controlled by the college. Everything-- and everyone- else seemed to be automatically suspect. No wonder it seemed like most of the student body just came back from a funeral when I have visited there. They become fearful of everyone outside of their own little circle-- everyone is out to get them. So they don't look at you as they pass you. They don't smile. They just want to block you out.
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:18 PM
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78. Big hugs to you.
I saw an elderly man on a streetcorner a block down from an assisted-living facility a few months ago. He had on pajama bottoms and slippers and was kind of dancing around. I didn't want him stepping out into traffic on what is a very busy road. I called my father, he found the number of the facility and called them, and they said by that time other people had called, too, and he had been retrieved. I've had two family members with dementia, one of whom wandered, so big hugs to you for taking care of this confused man.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:21 PM
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79. Most likely, in that hospital, he was chained to a bed.
That's the "kindness" of the system.

Please don't assume that he got "kind" care afterwards.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:28 AM
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114. There should be no need for chains.
Dad was in a facility for Alzheimer's patients, not the best, but he wore a wrist bracelet that would buzz if he ever got out a door. Plus you had to know what buttons to push, and he could never remember!
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:23 PM
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80. Thank you for doing that
I hope he is okay, but I know he wouldn't be had you not stopped to help. I do the same thing if anyone needs help. Not just people, but animals too. :hug:
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:48 PM
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83. You put Good into the world today
My husbear calls that "Pay Forward". I believe in angels. Not the kind with wings and halos, but the kind where the Universe moves through a willing person to do the right thing. Today, you were that angel. :hug:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:50 PM
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84. You did the right thing.
Feels great, doesn't it?

:yourock:
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:11 PM
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85. Thank you. There can never be too much kindness & concern.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:13 PM
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86. The last time I was the only one to care...
I had to take her home with me... everyone else just blew their horn...





Thankfully she is very small:)

You did the right thing. Good for you!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:25 PM
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87. Thank You...
I care...and what you did was exactly what i would have done.

You are my heroes of the day...:hug:
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konnichi wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:35 PM
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89. Hell, I shudder to think of the very good chance somebody would have grabbed his money
and dumped him in the ditch. Remember the old fellow in ...was it NYC a few months ago that was hit and lay in the road while cars swerved around him...?
:grr:
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:09 PM
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90. Our "Christian" country could use more Good Samaritans.
We are our brothers' and sisters' keepers.

Republicans seem mostly modern day Cains, looking away, stealing and even killing for greed and fear.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:20 PM
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91. And it's not even groundhog day!
Good karma to you.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:25 PM
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92. A big 'thumbs up' for you from Illinois!
We need more people like you!

:hi::thumbsup::hug:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:31 PM
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93. Good Karma coming your way.
And lots of it. :yourock:
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:02 PM
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94. Well, Liberty Belle
I live in L.A. and will watch the local news here to see if this gets reported here.

Thank you for what you did - K&R - even though us libruls is worthless and wrong. :hi:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:06 PM
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95. Good reminder to us all . . . be ready to show you care -- !!!
Thank you -- :)
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memory Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:08 PM
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96. Thank you for being a kind person that cares.
If only it were contagious.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:12 PM
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97. You are a remarkable and truly good person. I'm sure Karma will come around to you. nt
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:34 PM
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99. You performed a mitzvah, you know...
In Jewish tradition, an act of compassion, pleasing in the sight of God. Bless you for that.

I can't imagine how other people didn't think there was something highly irregular about an obviously infirm individual in pj's and slippers walking the onramp. Tsk tsk! Whatever were they thinking?

:eyes:





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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:24 PM
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100. Good for you
You are a good person. You paid it forward :)
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:35 PM
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101. you are a humanitarian.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:37 PM
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102. good for you....great job
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:38 PM
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103. A special thank you, Liberty Belle
Your are truly a fine example of a human being...hope someone like you is around if
i ever need help....z (over eighty).
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:41 PM
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104. *HUG*
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:49 PM
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105. Good job! I've done that twice.
I don't know why, if its that common or what, but twice I've come across old folks who were clearly not where they needed to be and picked them up.

One was from a nearby long term care facility that I dropped by to check, lucky pick, and he was on a highway with a walker.

The other I took to the nearest hospital ER, not being fond of cops.

Good on you, Liberty Bell!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:52 PM
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106. Awesome!!
:hug:
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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:05 PM
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107. Beautiful soul!
We care.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:09 PM
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108. YOU cared.
And thank you for that. Our prayers for the gentleman. May he have the care now that he needs.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:28 PM
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110. i understand how you feel.
A few months ago, there was an accident at a busy intersection. Out of all the many people and the cars in the area, only TWO people stopped to help the drivers and call 911, a lady who witnessed the accident and me (I didn't see it all, being several cars behind). She stayed with a young man in a SUV who seemed quite stunned. I kept an eye on a teenager who was really upset, and tried to be comforting without being overbearing.

Why didn't more people stop? I've been asking myself that question ever since.
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dccrossman Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:42 PM
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111. Thank you
Thank you for restoring a piece of my faith in humanity.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:08 AM
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113. Lots of people care and are grateful that you walk among us.
Thank you from every child of a dementia patient; from every wife watching her once beloved husband's mind fail; from every grandchild who collects a dollar on each visit to grandpa for "being a good boy/girl". Thank you from all of us! YOU saved us all from suffering one more loss, one more step toward collective amnesia about what it means to be "human".
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