Assassination squad to target BinLaden/AlQaeda would've activated YEARS AGO and would NOT need

[blm]

to be kept secret from Dem leaders. In fact, Clinton had a squad working with Pakistan intel sources to train a special forces team to go after Bin Laden. The coup by Musharraf (Bush pal) put a stop to that plan. Common sense tells us that BinLaden and ALQaeda would've been assassinated long ago by ANY OTHER WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS after an attack like 9-11.

The ONLY reason a death squad like this would need to be kept quiet is because their high value targets were NOT AlQaeda or even terrorists....they were more likely people who knew/know too much or stood/stand in the way of the global fascist agenda....and THAT type of murder unit has been around for decades.

This whole new line of crap being spouted in the corporate media that an assassination special team was 'about to go active' is a LIE. A LOL lie for any half-informed citizen.

Call them on it. Get LOUD about it. Common sense on the targets and the timing should leave them without reply.

[bobthedrummer]

1. Gary Berntsen's CIA censored "Jawbreaker" supports that fact (which you and I & others already know)

as well as any other open source for those of US that know where to find our hidden in plain sight, heavily redacted, history...

[blm]

33. I will never 'get' the indifference of so many Dems here on matters so relevant to

everything that that they claim they care about - the ignorance is WILLFUL.

Maybe they are increasingly more fearful about Dem complicity with these operations - Dems they supported in the past. More fearful than they want to let on to those they mocked in earlier exchanges.

[LSK]

2. Richard Clarke talked about Assassination squads during the 90s

He mentions this in his book Against All Enemies that they debated the idea and were trying to get missles on Predator drones to take out Al Queda leaders right when Bush came to office.

He also brings up the point that its ok to bomb Al Queda camps but assassinations are wrong. Whats really the difference?

But but but Clinton did nothing to get terrorists and was wagging the dog. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[LiberalFighter]

4. It may be more of a strategy than a matter of what is right to bomb camps

instead of assassinations.

Assassinations are targeted to individuals. While bombings are intended for an area to eliminate the target and anyone that is working with him or for the resources.

The first only intended to eliminate one person usually. The result could be someone stepping in to fill in the shoes and the person killed looked at as a martyr. Which would be a higher probability that they would enlist additional followers.

The second would be intended to eliminate the target and as many associates as possible. It could be consider an incentive for others to avoid associating with the target. Either as active associates or just providing shelter to the target.

[timeforpeace]

6. To paraphrase Hillary, it takes bombing a village.

[blm]

7. targetted hits on murdering terrorists is exactly how it should go down - not war and bombs.

and THAT is why I highly doubt this new story about a team that was 'about ready to activate' - no one would be AGAINST that so it wouldn't need to be secret from Dem leaders.

smells like CYA excuse thrown out there to let corporate media protect them.

[anigbrowl]

11. I happen to agree, but technically it is illegal to do that

Ford signed an executive order against assassinations in the wake of numerous press revelations about CIA activities. Now I personally think assassination is a highly desirable alternative to actual warfare, but on the other hand outlawing it arguably deprives enemies of a casus belli.

[blm]

15. That was for assassination of LEADERS....not terrorists.

Had BinLaden and his top people been eliminated in 1999 through Pakistani operatives as part of a global commitment to stop SERIOUS TERRORISM, the world would be a whole lot better off.

[anigbrowl]

22. it just says 'political assassination', which could mean a lot of things.

Text (since amended and the subject matter extended by other EOs) is here: http://ftp.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo11905.htm

It is pointless to argue with me. I have already expressed agreement with you on the merits of the idea, but I am not responsible for the fact of its illegality.

[blm]

25. Not an argument at all...using the exchange for those new to these issues.

I also want it clear that the commitment has to come from more than one government and region and targeting only the PROVEN and most hardened terrorists.

[wroberts189]

3. +7

[blm]

5. Edit expired, but, I'd like to rewrite a paragraph and add it here...the ONLY reason a death squad

>>>>
The ONLY reason a death squad like this would need to be kept quiet is because their high value targets were NOT AlQaeda or even terrorists....they were more likely people who knew/know too much or stood/stand in the way of the global fascist agenda....and THAT type of murder unit has been around for decades and were almost always 'covert' operations that were kept from congress because they were ILLEGAL and especially, in who their targets actually turned out to be - those who rebelled against, clashed with or tried to expose the fascists in their own countries or around the world.
>>>>

[leveymg]

29. Most assassinations are quarrels among former allies within elite factions

Political murder is as old as business. Assassination is business by other means.

The Bin Laden/Bin Mahfouz and Bush/Baker families were business partners who had a falling out over how best to take over Saudi Arabia and America. 9/11 and the GWOT were the result of a failed hostile takeover.

[Octafish]

8. Usually, USG orgs use ''cut-outs'' and ''middle-men'' like the Mafia.

That's why Dulles and Nixon (the Administration) got Hughes and Maheu (private Property) to approach Giancanna, Marcello and Roselli (the Mob) to get Castro (socialist) in 1960. JFK Lancer chronicles the story, too often twisted even by liberal publications to make it look like the Kennedy brothers were behind the attempts.

The names of the shooters and victims change, but it’s always Conspiracies In Action in defense of the world’s richest turds. This exposure of the alleged Pentagon/CIA/VP Hit Team raises not the question of Congress being out of the loop or the shock that someone would sit around the tables of government, as Helms once said, to discuss the murder of another government's leader.

As you indicated, blm, what the Bush chimpministration was hiding is who they were targeting. Online Journal reports Ms. Bhutto may've been one high profile victim.

If Bush could classify Americans as "enemies of the state" post-USA PATRIOT Act, who would've stopped him or his handler Cheney from killing off an American politician who planned to stop their rush to war in Iraq? Plane crashes happen all the time.

[blm]

9. Hey there, Octafish...can you BELIEVE this new line of crap we're being told to swallow?

.

[Octafish]

10. Unbelievable, considering how more than a few names come to mind.

Michael Connell (Election Fraud Technical Gru)
John Kokal (No WMDs in Iraq)
David Kelly (No WMDs in Iraq)
Cliff Baxter (ENRON #2)
Gary Webb (CIA drugs)
Jim Hatfield (Bush bin Laden connection)
Deborah Palfrey (Washington Madame knew everybody from Congress-White House-CIA-Contracting Scam)
Clint Curtiss (Election Fraud)
Athan Gibbs (Election Fraud)

Know your BFEE: Dead Men Tell No Tales

Danny Casolaro (Octopus investigator)
Abbie Hoffman (October Surprise investigator)
Steve Kangas (Powers-That-Be investigator)
Mark Lombardi (Conspiracies In Action investigator)

Know your BFEE: 1984 Death of Outstanding Congressional Staffer Buried Poppy-Moon Relationship

Know your BFEE: Bush has Killed a Million Innocent People for Their Oil.

That's nowhere near close to everybody, unfortunately. In infinite ways.

Thank you for caring about this most sick, sordid and difficult to analyze of subjects, blm.

Idet: Forgot to thank blm.

[blm]

16. Thank YOU for your alertness, truth, wisdom, and patriotism.

.

[Ichingcarpenter]

28. I love your posts they

Educate and take us down the rabbit hole to meet the Mad Hatter


All should follow the links and then check them out for themselves


THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE.

I did mention David Kelly first in this post and took it in that direction.

[chimpymustgo]

30. Octafish, please post this as a separate OP. It's worth a reminder. Don't forget Paul Wellstone.

And Teddy was supposed to be on that plane.

[bobthedrummer]

24. "Conspiracies In Action"-you got it, brother!!!!

[ShamelessHussy]

12. Exactly. and i think we should bring the troops home if they cancelled targeting AQ

This really pisses me of :argh:

[blm]

13. Good point....

.

[EFerrari]

14. Exactly. It's transparent bullshit. n/t

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. Who Killed David Kelly and the anthrax stooge?

Gee the CIA wouldn't do something like that, would they if they worked for Cheney?

[Octafish]

21. One Anthrax victim worked at The National Enquirer and posted famous pic of Jenna B.

http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. As Cheney said to Sen. Leahy after he received the Anthrax

I got the Patriotic Act passed......... go fuck yourself

AMERICA
or I will shoot you in your face and you will apologize or be afraid on way or another.

MANY EUROPEANS WANT TO SEE HIM IN THE HAGUE BUT AWAIT AMERICA TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT
FOR THEIR COUNTRY FIRST.

I knew about that death BTW

[Junkdrawer]

18. All depends on what "al Qaeda" is....

Hey, Executive pronouncement that David Kelly is in "al Qaeda" and, hey presto, legal assassination.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. This was Cheney's squad made for his political purposes

now shoot me in the face with a shotgun and I will apologize for this statement

[Junkdrawer]

20. Which is why this nebulous group called "al Qaeda" is so useful...

for the Cheney's of this world.

What is "al Qaeda"? Anything Cheney et. al. want it to be...

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. Why do you love 'al Quaada' and hate Cheney and America?

Since the CIA helped create Ben Laden in the first place in Afghanistan?

Cheney has had a longer time than Benny to create his power structure in the US for world domination
working for our government with Donald since the 70s. His still secret energy task force is what saved this
nation from stable energy prices and a solid economy. Think goodness for chaos or I wouldn't have lost my home
and they got rich with power and wealth.

I want to see him in the Hague along with the other 911 conspirators

[mmonk]

23. Yes, this reeks of bullshit.

[bleever]

31. The "modified limited hang-out" is patently transparent.

It begs for deeper investigation.

K&R.

[blm]

32. It reeks of CYA.....they dangle AlQaeda to get people to 'accept' the practice, knowing corpmedia

will help them divert inquiry as to the REAL VICTIMS Bush-Cheney's rogue units have been targeting as they continued Poppy Bush's reign of manipulation and murder for the global fascist agenda.