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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 03:38 PM
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My Mom Is A Torture Loving, Italian/Catholic, Fascist and Fox News Viewer
Really really good piece over at The Public Record...

http://pubrecord.org/commentary/2892/torture-loving-italiancatholic/

By Robert Corsini
The Public Record
Jul 26th, 2009

It’s truly stupefying that today, in the midst of the Obama era, that legions of Americans continue to find it so easy to rationalize and doggedly defend the Bush administration’s torture program.

As more details are revealed it’s clear that never before in human history has such a complex system of abduction, international rendition, and judicial and legislative manipulations been employed to advance and empower an extremely narrow yet far reaching political agenda.

Bush and Co. have turned American democracy on its head and redefined political criminality and neo-fascistic hubris while injecting their poison into the minds of untold millions of Americans via a compliant and self-serving media system. They have rendered Orwell’s horrific vision for the future of humanity in ‘1984’, quaint. But above all, what is most astonishing to me is how they have made my 86 year old Italian-Catholic, Jesus loving mother, embrace torturers and denounce Peace Makers.

My two brothers and I used to have a good laugh when my parents would talk about the ‘good’ Mussolini brought to Italy. For my entire adult life, spirited political hyperbole and great food have always been a part of my family’s dinner table experience. ‘Pass the ravioli – the Japs deserved two nuclear bombs!’ ‘How could you say such a thing I thought you believed in Jesus?’

http://pubrecord.org/commentary/2892/torture-loving-italiancatholic/">Continued here... and well worth it...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 03:43 PM
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1. She's an Italian and a Catholic!? How horrible. nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 05:03 PM
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2. "My mother is a truly wonderful and beautiful woman — she is just so profoundly frightened"
"by what she has been told about the world, that her value system has been turned inside out."

Says it all right there doesn't it? Great article, thanks for posting.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 05:17 PM
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3. You have to watch those extremists...
...who claim to believe in a hell in which condemned souls suffer. There's no need to poll them on whether they believe in torture "under certain circumstances." They most certainly do--just as their churches tell them to.
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SleeplessInAlabama Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:36 PM
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9. Same people who've run the "Hell on Earth Live Experience" from time to time in history n/t
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 05:18 PM
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4. Wow -- Pope offends papa Bush
US media erupts with non-stop coverage of church sex-abuse scandal.

Get the message people?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 06:25 PM
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5. Yep.
:thumbsup:
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PerpetuallyDazed Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 10:37 AM
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15. I hadn't come across that connection before...
very interesting.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 07:58 PM
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6. "A study released in April by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press indicates.......
... the more often people attend church, the more likely they are to support torture." Even to me, that was quite a surprise!

pnorman
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 10:05 AM
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14. It didn't surprise me at all..
But then I've been an atheist watching "Christians" from the outside for over 45 years now.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:30 PM
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7. Guilt, pain, and fear
Some Catholics stock em' up like firewood for winter.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-26-09 08:34 PM
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8. Loving Jesus and torture at the same time. You wrote that
"A study released in April by the Pew Research Center for
the People and the Press indicates the more often people
attend church, the more likely they are to support
torture."

This is not surprising.  Catholicism is filled with pain,
punishment, torture and violence.Some of the artwork and
sculptures etc. are downright gory and spooky.I gave up
Catholicism  for Lent years ago and never looked back. It is a
disgusting religion and I want no part of it.  Good riddance.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 08:57 AM
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10. K&R
:kick:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:24 AM
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11. So, apparently we can't blame it on the US educational system. So, where's it come from?
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:50 AM
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12. Good article................
k+r
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 09:58 AM
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13. This Catholic supports this writing and the truth revealed in it.
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 09:59 AM by mmonk
I have very few positive feelings today on the subject of religion and the general moral decay of our society. It's a major part of my pessimism when darkness is justified as light.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 10:43 AM
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16. Fox News definitely has changed my Grandfather for the worse
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 10:45 AM by high density
He sits around and watches that crap all day. Beck. O'Reilly. Hannity. He isn't well informed on anything these days. He's been the Republican Catholic all his life, but the amount of honest discussion I can have with him on current events is minimal. The reality being presented on Fox News is simply from another world. There is just no way to start a conversation when the other side is starting out with total lies and fabrications.
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