New Studies Show Organic Food has Higher Nutritional Quality

[nosmokes]

hopefully this doesn't come as a surprise to anyone. better flavor,healthier food because the soil is healthy. it's a pretty simple concept really. poison the medium you're growing food in and you end up with food that's been poisoned.
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New Studies Show Organic Food has Higher Nutritional Quality


Three new European research projects have just revealed that organic tomatoes, peaches and processed apples all have higher nutritional quality than non-organic, supporting the results of research from America on kiwi fruit reported 26 March 2007. <1>

Researchers found that organic tomatoes “contained more dry matter, total and reducing sugars, vitamin C, B-carotene and flavonoids in comparison to the conventional ones”, while conventional tomatoes in this study were richer in lycopene and organic acids. <2>

Previous research has found organic tomatoes have higher levels of vitamin C, vitamin A and lycopene.

In the latest research, the scientists conclude “organic cherry and standard tomatoes can be recommended as part of a healthy diet including plant products which have shown to be of value in cancer prevention” <3>

A French study has found that organic peaches “have a higher polyphenol content at harvest” and concludes that organic production has “positive effects … on nutritional quality and taste”
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complete article including links to the studies and other sources here

[karlrschneider]

1. Hey, the more polyphenols, the better!

:toast:

[StClone]

2. What a load of manure

Composted manure is very high quality fertilizer! :-)

That and the plant varieties they use may be part of it. Tom, my produce manager, says organic products last much longer on the shelves (apples, pears, kiwi, strawberries etc...) and must contain more nature antioxidants.

[silverweb]

3. Gee... who'da thunk?

[Cha]

4. Of course, it does..and your

liver isn't having to combat bug poison.

AND, it tastes much better.

[AspenRose]

5. What worries me these days is how the current misadministration is trying

to water down what "organic" means.....at least when it's labeled in the store.

Farmer's markets and local co-ops are probably the best bet for truly organic, fresh produce.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Is the food poisoned, or does it have less nutrients?

Two different things.

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. But your link says organic peaches have...

a higher polyphenol count.

The common explanation for phytochemicals such as these is that they act as endogenous pesticides. So if a pesticide counts as poison, wouldn't that mean your organic peaches have more poison?

Now, did the article you linked to claim that non organic fruits and veggies had more poison, and not just less nutrients, or is that just another one of your false inferences?

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Why so irrational?

Did I hit a nerve?

[nosmokes]

15. who's irrational?

you're the one that finds it necessary to reply to every post i make w/big ag/monsanto talking points thathave as often as not already been widely debunked, accuse me of being a conspicist simply because i believe food containing GMO ingredients should be labeled as such and because as an agriculturist i believe i should have the right to know when GMOs are being planted near my farm and what mitigation meaasures are being taken to prevent contaminating my fields so i can protect my interests and those of my family and customers tell me what's irrational about that?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. You claimed something in the OP...

and linked to it, but the link didn't support your claim at all. And I called you out on it, and you got mad at me.

I think that it's perfectly fine to take an anti-GM stand, nosmokes, but if you care about your own cause then you're going to want to protect the credibility of that cause by not making false claims and inferences.

[nosmokes]

19. no i didn't.

the links in the OP relate to studies that state organic produce has more nutrients and flavor than *conventionally* grown produce.*convetionally* grown isproduced with petrochemical ferilizers and pesticides, or poisons.there's no fucking inference and there's no irrationality. there are certain things that are givens, and one is that conventionally grown food is poisoned. that's one reason why organically grown is healthier.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. You said this...

"you end up with food that's been poisoned."

Which is entirely different than what's in the link.

You have a habit of doing that.

[Reterr]

21. What a load!

You are really reaching here :eyes:...I guess Monsanto has paid shills on here too....

[StClone]

23. Maybe

There are people from all sorts of places pushing agendas here; some of them are paid to do so. I carried on a long conversation with a poster. When I got to PM him the connection was made that he was a professional working somewhere in pesticide research/manufacturing.

We are stewed in corporate sponsored research, literature and ads. We only discover how vulnerable we are when the food supply is tainted (much as the dog food scare). We find a few manufacturers make much of our food their way -- profit based without long-term considerations.

I'd be naive to believe we are uninfluenced even if there are no corporate shills here.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. See, this is what I'm talking about.

If somebody comes up with an opposing argument, they're accused of working for Monsanto. That's loony conspiracy stuff. It doesn't help the anti-GM argument, it just makes it look silly.

[StClone]

12. There are different "poisons."

Many plants have evolved a specific spectrum of "poisons" to ward off insects and fungus yet make their fruit available at low-toxicity for specific seed dispersing mammals.

Man-made pesticides are not so selective. This "it's all poison" comparison is seems apt but is not accurate.

Caffeine and nicotine are two examples (as is Vitamin C a good, in regards as a, plant-based preservative).

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Nicotine and caffeine are both toxic in humans.

So are cyanide, strychnine, and morphine. All of which are produced by plants.

Are you suggesting that if it's "natural" it's better for you than the synthetic stuff?

(vitamin C's just an anti-oxidant, it's present everywhere)

[StClone]

16. As I posted

"Many plants have evolved a specific spectrum of "poisons" to ward off insects and fungus yet make their fruit available at low-toxicity for specific seed dispersing mammals."

Familiar examples (plant toxins) with low level (concentrations) of nicotine and caffeine which are not cumulative (detoxified and eliminated). Herbivores (and us) could have a life-time exposure to either and survive a long time because we have some adaption to them. Tobacco plants even have strategies for being eaten by herbivores and specific caffeine resistant insects: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060906083012.htm

We don't have the benefit of adaption to DDT (once again not the best example but a familiar one as would be it's metabolites, PCBs) are cumulative. Many pesticides/chemicals (more should) have been removed from the market because the Science showed detrimental effects to nature and man. Even in low concentrations they accumulation over time and are detrimental. Not all chemicals man produces are toxic but it's better to eat low level toxins (Organic) than not. That is the point of this entire post.

I never said plants produce no toxins for which small amounts are deadly (Hightshades, Poison Hemlock, Oleander etc.). I am suggesting human and plants evolved together; we haven't for many man-made chemicals that contaminate MUCH of our food. I am stating a rule and I am certain you'll be interested in posting exceptions.

[StClone]

17. Preservative? Of course Vitamin C is used as such

Vitamin C fits the bill regardless how widespread. Keeps apples from turning brown kind of like Sodium nitrate/nitrite keeps meat red.

Edit: Oh yeah, it's one of your body's first line anti-oxidants...you knew that.

[Madspirit]

9. I could have told you this...

I've been growing organic for decades....

Much better taste too.
Lee

[kwolf68]

14. Love the taste

Organics are more expensive, but my wife and I are committed to them and orgnanic food tastes better to me.

[nam78_two]

20. K&R.nt

[Reterr]

22. Doh

:)