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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:20 PM
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Why Haven't We Had An "Illion Man March" For Health Care!
















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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:23 PM
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1. Ooh, what about a Nathan Fillion Man March?
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:57 PM
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8. That might be a "Drive" instead.
:rofl:

Insert Buffy puns
Insert Firefly puns
Insert Castle puns

etc.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:16 PM
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9. Fillion is Canadian
We all know about the Canadian system and how anti-profit it is.

We had better start building a wall on the border.

(Now we know what Obama really meant by "Yes we can" ... "Yes, we Can-ada!")



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:24 PM
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2. I'm with you.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:55 PM
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7. How is that we can organize a 150,000 person rally for Obama's campaign in 2008
... but can't get a march on DC for health care in 2009?




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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:07 PM
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12. I live in California and cannot go to L.A.
I seek in vain for a demonstration near my home. I would have no clue about how to organize one. I'm really good at tabling and walking precincts, but I don't know much about demonstrations. They have never been my style. I'll talk to anyone one on one.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:30 AM
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13. It takes a community organizer
Wait, we have one. In the White House!

(Maybe now would be a good time for Obama to make a plea for people to show their support.)

Also, where are the old-timers, the wise ones, the ones who organized marches for civil rights and peace?













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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:26 PM
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3. The only millions you will continue to see in health is your insurer's CEO salary
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 08:45 PM
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10. Health Insurance Company CEOs Total Compensation in 2008
Ins. Co. & CEO With 2008 Total CEO Compensation

Aetna, Ronald A. Williams: $24,300,112
Cigna, H. Edward Hanway: $12,236,740
Coventry, Dale Wolf: $9,047,469
Health Net, Jay Gellert: $4,425,355
Humana, Michael McCallister: $4,764,309
U. Health Group, Stephen J. Hemsley: $3,241,042
Wellpoint, Angela Braly: $9,844,212

http://www.healthreformwatch.com/2009/05/20/health-insurance-ceos-total-compensation-in-2008/


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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:26 PM
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4. it's the ONLY thing that's going to work.
i've said it before, and i'm still standing by it.

without a MAJOR march on dc, we are SCREWN.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:30 PM
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6. I don't think a peaceful march will get media attention. Another kind
of march might. Of course, I'm not advocating violence, but...

We need a gimmick march. A Marching Band march. Every marcher plays a musical instrument. Boy, that would be loud!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 11:06 PM
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11. the kind of march that's huge enough to matter would be covered.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:29 PM
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5. America wouldn't cover it. Well, Rachel and Keith and Bill would.
And, of course, Jon and Stephen. That's it.

Remember the antiwar blackouts?
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:25 AM
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14. People power: Where is it?
People power: Where is it?

Aug 17th, 2009

As we all get into this health care debate, I believe working with other orginizations, MoveOn should be the leader in rallying a massive demonstration in DC that tells Americans we want health care reform.

You may be squadering the opportunity to push a "million man march" reaction in the public domain. Reach out, touch America with something big, rather than a 30 sec commercial.

Use the power of the people, just like protest of the war in the late 60's early seventies.
Come on this was the 40th anniversary of Woodstock. People power..............

At least speard the word to all you know, and spitball it amoung the people.

Rally in the streets, protest the insurance companies, give them some bad press. Insurance companies have been to much in the limelight letting thier cronies do there fear-mongering.

Democrats need to unite, protest is our key. Please use it.

We used it during Woodstock, we use it against the Vietnam War, we must organize out of the debate halls and into the streets. The bankers caved when protesters pressured the big wigs, let's protest the health insurance companies. Throw the GOP off their game-plan

Where are our Democratic fellow organizers? Focus is needed, fight the GOP machine on a different level, they have been guiding to much of the debate.

Peace to my fellow Dems who want health insurance reform.

http://www.democrats.org/page/community/blog/michaelhaney


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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:29 AM
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15. Count me in!
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:52 AM
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16. LET'S DO IT!!!!!!



People power: Where is it?

8/17/09

As we all get into this health care debate, I believe working with other orginizations, MoveOn should be the leader in rallying a massive demonstration in DC that tells Americans we want health care reform.

You may be squadering the opportunity to push a "million man march" reaction in the public domain. Reach out, touch America with something big, rather than a 30 sec commercial.

Use the power of the people, just like protest of the war in the late 60's early seventies.
Come on this was the 40th anniversary of Woodstock. People power..............

At least speard the word to all you know, and spitball it amoung the people.

Rally in the streets, protest the insurance companies, give them some bad press. Insurance companies have been to much in the limelight letting thier cronies do there fear-mongering.

Democrats need to unite, protest is our key. Please use it.

We used it during Woodstock, we use it against the Vietnam War, we must organize out of the debate halls and into the streets. The bankers caved when protesters pressured the big wigs, let's protest the health insurance companies. Throw the GOP off their game-plan

Where are our Democratic fellow organizers? Focus is needed, fight the GOP machine on a different level, they have been guiding to much of the debate.

Peace to my fellow Dems who want health insurance reform.

http://www.democrats.org/page/community/blog/michaelhaney




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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:21 AM
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18. The GOP on health care reform ....



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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:55 AM
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17. I can give you my OP on why.
Because the leadership of our organizations like Move On and many others like it are not interested in doing so.
And that is probably because they raise money on outrage not on results.
It seems to me that all of our organizations are eventually compromised by money.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:39 AM
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19. Both sides are using the town halls for their marches
Or maybe that's ALL sides, since there seems to be more than just two factions.

It's an incremental march.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:06 PM
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32. One side is using it to quell dialogue
One side is using it to elicit dialogue.

I'd say there's a difference.


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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:45 AM
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20. Because it would be ignored
like the multi-million-global anti-war marches were by the media and world leaders?

just a though.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 11:58 AM
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22. Well, maybe if everyone came strapped with a gun to his or her leg
(It doesn't have to be a real gun.)

Or if we held signs with misspelled words?







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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 08:45 AM
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21. K&R for the bumper stickers!
:kick:
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:12 PM
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23. He's Reich on!
Robert Reich calls for 'march on Washington' in support of public option

8/18/09

Robert Reich, the former Labor secretary, scholar and commentator, called Tuesday for a “march on Washington” on Sept. 13 —“Grandparents Day” — in support of a health care bill that offers a public option.

While he said organizing was not his strength, he would be prepared to assist. “If enough people feel that’s the best way for their voices to be heard, and can’t be heard in any other way, then we march,” Reich said in a reader question-and-answer session in POLITICO’s Arena.

A group of conservatives have already announced a “tea party” movement march on Washington for Sept. 12. An opposing march the next day, if one were to materialize, could make for an interesting weekend.

Reich’s suggested march is the latest manifestation of liberal anger about signs that the Obama administration may be willing to live without a public option if it means a health care bill can become law. “Very few things happen in Washington that are in the public's interest when corporations have huge financial stakes in the game, as they obviously do with health care — unless the public is actively involved, engaged and organized,” Reich wrote. “We won't get a public option, or anything close to it, unless people who feel strongly about it make a racket.”

The “first step is to be very loud and very vocal: Write, phone, e-mail, your congressional delegation and the White House. Second step: Get others to do the same. Third step: Get voters in Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, and other states where Blue Dog Dems and wavering Senate Dems live, and have them make a hell of a fuss. Fourth step: March on Washington.”

He suggested the morning of Sept. 13 because “that's a Sunday, and it's also Grandparents Day. I've just become a grandparent, and I'm worried as hell about the kind of world my little granddaughter is inheriting. “

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26224.html



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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 02:13 PM
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24. Are you listening to Ed...
I am
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 05:32 PM
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25. I just put on the Ed Show on MSNBC
I missed the first half hour.

(What did I miss?)


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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:20 PM
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26. Health Care Now - March on Washington - Sept 13th?
Health Care Now - March on Washington - Sept 13th?
by: Riley Murray
Wed Aug 19, 2009

Well it appears a tipping point has been reached. Paternal patience has worn out... enough of the childish Republican domestic terrorist malarkey at congressional rep town hall meetings and being the predictably Party of No How, No Way. (Was that really a surprise?)

Breaking:White House and Congressional Dems Will Do Health Care Reform On Their Own

Buzz is building for a March on Washington by Real-Grass Roots for Public Option, not funded by Corporate America.

A nice Sunday in September trip to D.C. Me and 500,000 of my dearest friends.

Road Trip!

See you soon, Mr. Warner, Mr. Webb, and Mr. Goodlatte.

Hope to see you'all there.

By the time we got to Woodstock
We were half a million strong
And everywhere there was song and celebration

http://bluecommonwealth.com/diary/1065/health-care-now-march-on-washington-sept-13th



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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:26 AM
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27. March For Healthcare
March For Healthcare

by lafayetteliberal

Aug 19, 2009

I write this diary because I think our healthcare system is failing. Premiums are through the roof. The quality of care is down and the country is at a crossroads.

lafayetteliberal's diary :: :: I have a bad feeling about the healthcare bill passing with a public option. My gut is telling me that right now, we are looking at either no bill at all, or a watered down bill that the progressives cave in on. This is unacceptable. We elected the Democrats to make change. We elected them so that we can have affordable healthcare. Right now, the republican party is better organized and capitalizing on the fears of the american people. NO MORE!!! We must organize and show the american people why the public option is vital. We cannot pass a bill that throws more money at the insurance industry and does nothing to help the uninsured. We cannot pass a bill that limits a persons ability to sue their insurance company but does nothing to make the company provide better coverage. We cannot pass a bill that mandates employers give coverage but provides nothing to help with the costs. NO MORE!!! Robert Reich said that we should march in DC. I say we should march across the USA. Every city and every state must be represented. September 13th is the date. Help make this happen. Healthcare costs are hurting all americans. The tea baggers organized over fears. We must organize with a purpose. Make the media hear us. Please help me at www.marchforhealthcare.com or Facebook March For Healthcare

The facebook link is a group to join. We need people who can help organize.

I ask, if the public option does not happen now, then when. When Hillary tried health care reform it failed. We are now here 15 years later. Does anyone want to wait another 15 years for true reform?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/19/182525/650



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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 08:23 AM
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28. MARCH.MARCH.MARCH.MARCH MARCH MARCH
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:31 PM
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29. September is March Medness!
:)



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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:17 PM
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30. We butsted our Butts against the Bush Family for 8 year...and then for Obama
It's up to Obama to live his PROMISE OF CHANGE! "WE ARE THE ONES" he said.

We are the "Ones" looking for the torch to be picked up....by the rest of us who sad by while we WORKED!

Just MHO...for what it's worth..
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 07:30 PM
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31. Fattah Advocates D.C. 'March for Healthcare'
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 07:32 PM by BLUSH
Fattah Advocates D.C. 'March for Healthcare' By the Supporters of Reform with Public Option
by lafayetteliberal

Thu Aug 20, 2009 at 02:47:01 PM PDT

We are trying to organize on facebook and at www.marchforhealthcare.com

Every city, every state. March on September 13th. Demand a public option

lafayetteliberal's diary :: :: Fattah Advocates D.C. 'March for Healthcare' By the Supporters of Reform with Public Option

WASHINGTON,, Aug. 20 PRNewswire-USNewswire -- Congressman Chaka Fattah (D-PA) plans to introduce a resolution in support of a national "March for Healthcare" in Washington on September 13 to mobilize the supporters of real healthcare reform with the public option, Fattah announced today.

The Philadelphia Congressman, a strong advocate for comprehensive healthcare reform, said he is calling on colleagues in Congress to endorse the proposal for a march, which was suggested this week by former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich to coincide with Grandparents Day.

Fattah said his concurrent resolution, to be introduced when the House convenes September 8, would authorize use of the Capitol grounds for the march.

"The confusion, misinformation and scare tactics about a 'public option' trumpeted by the opponents of real healthcare reform have dominated the national debate long enough," Fattah said. "It is way past time for the vast majority favoring healthcare reform with the public option to show up and speak up at the Capitol's doorstep and make their views known to their elected representatives."

Fattah continued, "Robert Reich is to be commended for his leadership on this proposal for a Grandparents Day march. What better time and place to refute these false claims about how President Obama's healthcare reform would threaten older Americans.

"Congress and the nation need a wakeup call on the truth about the President's reform program, which would extend coverage to 47 million uninsured Americans, cover preexisting conditions and protect tens of millions more who are underinsured or face potential loss of the coverage they have," Fattah said. "It's time for a healthy conversation about healthcare."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/20/770095/-Fattah-Advocates-D.C.-March-for-Healthcare-By-the-Supporters-of-Reform-with-Public-Option













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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 08:18 AM
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34. Facebook March For Healthcare
March For Healthcare

Type: Organizations - Political Organizations

Description: The purpose of this group is to organize a march on September 13th across the USA. Congress is wavering on the public option and we must demand one if we expect healthcare costs to go down. Every city in the country needs you to come out on the that day and March For Healthcare. I am just one person who is fed up with the system. If there are a million of you out there like me then we can make our voices heard. Let's March!!!

Contact Info
Website: http://www.marchforhealthcare.com


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118144661546



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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 09:24 AM
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35. Perhaps...

it is because Rev Farrakhan & co are more dedicated and better organizers.
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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:04 PM
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36. Train yourself to combat right-wing tactics
Our response is shaped by 3 things:

•Our targets are Members of Congress who must vote “yes” for this bill. Our targets are not the right-wing extremists. The targets of these attacks are Members of Congress. Those Members are also our targets. We need to use these attacks as opportunities to work with the Members in ways that build our relationship in the field and bring us together as allies in health care reform. Members may be more receptive to partnering with us if they know we will help them combat the opposition.

•Our core message is effective, and we should always come back to it. Our campaign plan has always anticipated opposition. No matter what the right-wingers bring up to distract the debate, we should always circle back to our key message. We are on the side of quality, affordable health care for everyone, and we are against turning over health care reform to the insurance companies and lobbyists who got us into this mess to begin with. We need to educate the press and the public that the protesters are aligned with the corporate lobbyists and insurance companies who are trying to stop reform.

•Our ability to put the extremists into perspective helps us frame our narrative. We should be prepared to respond to the other side, but we don’t need to be reactive or feel pressure to answer their accusations point by point. Instead, we should treat them as agents of the insurance lobbyists who want to maintain the status quo. We can dismiss their radical rhetoric by circling back to the basic things that we know most people care about—affordability, access, and quality.


more:

http://healthcareforamericanow.org/site/fight



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BLUSH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 05:26 PM
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37. What do we want? When do we want it?




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