Remind Me Again-Why Didn't We Try Single Payer?

[n2doc]

[Oregone]

1. Pssst....because we don't really care

[msongs]

2. bcause the government is owned by corporations n congress = prostitutes? lol nt

[obliviously]

14. I am slowly becoming convinced of this. nt

[polichick]

16. Pretty much. nt

[polichick]

3. Great one - let's hope they go back to the drawing board. nt

[dgibby]

4. Because our corporate masters wouldn't tolerate it? n/t

[EFerrari]

5. Because it doesn't uniquely address greasing up the insurance industry.

[MarjorieG]

6. Because Bernie Sanders says maybe 10 senators would sign. A lot less than public option.

[FLDCVADem]

8. Exactly

Senate support is not there.

[neverforget]

10. Medicare couldn't get passed with todays Democrats. Too spineless

and owned by corporations.

[John Q. Citizen]

21. Absolutly. Social Security would be off the table. Unemployment and workers comp would be off the

table.

But it's not just the leaders, it's also the people. Look at how many people are begging for an untested market driven solution that will give private insurance companies a trillion dollars of tax monies over a decade. It's called the 'public option' when it should be called 'The Insurance Bailout Fund.'

[flvegan]

7. Money. n/t

[valerief]

9. Bribery. nt

[Tesha]

11. Because a significant number of "Democrats" are bought-and-paid-for by the Health Care industry. NT

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Because accepting bribes is more profitable than serving the public.

"When politics enter . . . government, nothing resulting there from in the way of crimes and infamies is then incredible. It actually enables one to accept and believe the impossible."

"In . . . politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."

"The government of my country snubs honest simplicity, but fondles artistic villainy, and I think I might have developed into a very capable pickpocket if I had remained in the public service a year or two."

"Right here in this heart and home and fountain-head of law this great factory where are forged those rules that create good order and compel virtue and honesty in the other communities of the land, rascality achieves its highest perfection."

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.  Now, to go and stick one at the very head of government couldn’t be wise."

Mark Twain

[chelsea0011]

13. Because human sacrifice was in the bill?

[cornermouse]

15. Because they'd already been bought but neglected to tell us

and we'd already been sold and nobody bothered to tell us.

[John Q. Citizen]

17. HR676 (Medicare for All) is getting a full debate and full floor vote in September.

The CBO is scoring it during the recess.

So, with or without the White house we will be trying it.

[FLDCVADem]

18. And should it make it through the House....

...(doubtful) it will fail big in the Senate.

[John Q. Citizen]

22. And the American people will know who is for the people and who is for the insurance companies.

Which will be a good thing.

[glitch]

23. A very good thing.

I hope the House passes it.

[John Q. Citizen]

25. Me too, and I will keep pushing and fighting for that. But should they fail to, we will have a list

of so-called "Democrats" who need to be fired either in the primary or the general. There's absolutely no point voting Dem if winning means you get a Republican.

If we can unseat enough of those who put corporate profits above our health care then it will send a message to anyone who wants to keep their job.

[glitch]

29. That's the ONLY advantage to the past 10 years.

The corporatists have had to de-cloak. Now we can remove them, assuming we ever get fair election systems again.

[hugo_from_TN]

19. Because Obama and most of Congress are against it.

[Toucano]

20. Somali pirates have taken over the congress?

Oh, wait. Those are just our elected officials.

[invictus]

24. Why? Because the Democratic Party is bought and paid for by the corporations. n/t

[OneBlueSky]

26. because the insurance and pharmaceutical industries OWN the healthcare system . . .

and since it's providing them with unheard of profits, they're not about to allow anyone to fuck with their golden goose . . .

[Mystayya]

27. Because the insurance companies give big money to congress

[dionysus]

28. because it won't pass, not because it's a bad idea.

with the blue dogs and repukes making such a stink about a mere public option, you really think single payer wouldn't get shot down in flames?