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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:45 AM
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17 % gap in support for Democrats' health care plans when referred to as "Obama's health care plan"
Source: MSNBC

Two weeks since raucous congressional town-hall meetings on health care became a national story — and days after President Barack Obama began holding his own town halls — Americans remain skeptical about White House plans to overhaul the nation’s health system, according to a new NBC News poll.

A plurality believes Obama’s health plan would worsen the quality of health care, a result that is virtually unchanged from last month’s NBC/Wall Street Journal poll. What’s more, only four in 10 approve of the president’s handling of the issue, which also is unchanged from July.

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Damaging misperceptions

One of the reasons why it has become tougher is due to misperceptions about the president’s plans for reform.

Majorities in the poll believe the plans would give health insurance coverage to illegal immigrants; would lead to a government takeover of the health system; and would use taxpayer dollars to pay for women to have abortions — all claims that nonpartisan fact-checkers say are untrue about the legislation that has emerged so far from Congress.

Forty-five percent think the reform proposals would allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing medical care for the elderly.

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McInturff also observes that these numbers — which come after Obama embarked on a three-state swing (New Hampshire, Montana and Colorado) to hold town halls of his own — suggest that the White House’s counteroffensive was, “at best, break-even.”

But if the country is cautious about Obama’s health plans, it doesn’t seem to trust the Republican Party at all on the subject. Just 21 percent approve of the GOP’s handling of health care, versus 62 percent who disapprove.

Still, the country appears to be receptive to some type of health care reform. A combined 60 percent of respondents say the system needs either a “complete overhaul” or “major reform.” (Yet that combination has declined 10 points since April, and the percentage wanting a “complete overhaul” has dropped 12 points since that time.)

Also, while just 36 percent believe Obama’s efforts to reform the health system are a good idea, that number increases to 53 percent when respondents were read a paragraph describing Obama’s plans.

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More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32464936/ns/politics-white_house/
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:48 AM
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1. As usual, misinformation rules the day.....
..... And our MSM is working hard to clarify all this, right?


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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:49 AM
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2. In other words, the majority of the public is stupid and ill informed
until they are actually read what is proposed. Geez, I know why Bush was elected the second time. At some point in time, the public has to stop blaming politicians for the problems of this country and look at themselves too...knowledge is power and listening to talking points from either party is the easy way to pretend to participate in democracy.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:50 AM
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4. Yes. People responded positively to descriptions of the Clinton plan, but not to the name
'Clinton' Plan.

Dumb fucks are still out there.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:49 AM
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3. Same thing with the Clinton plan. If you took Clinton's name off it, approval went up. Everything
old is new again. Here's hoping just enough more people are smarter this go round and it will punch through.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:53 AM
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5. That's why they're calling it "Obama Care"
It conflates it to sound like "Hillary Care" where the successful demonetization in the 90s worked for them.

Every time I hear Obama Care I know immediately I'll hear RW talking points and misconceptions.

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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:57 AM
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6. And that is the next inroad we must take. In the next week or so at the latest.
The pols could ride the Barney Frank Express and get this thing going... But I digress... they have no courage.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:59 AM
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7. Our enemy: Ignorance.
Reading sentences like this make me want to scream:

"while just 36 percent believe Obama’s efforts to reform the health system are a good idea, that number increases to 53 percent when respondents were read a paragraph describing Obama’s plans."

Fercrissakes people: Educate yourselves!

And to Obama: Get out there and EXPLAIN YOUR PLAN!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 09:59 AM
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8. ...and once again, George Lakoff is right
Framing is everything.
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