Message to citizens of Scotland and the UK. Join us in our boycott of FOX NEWS!

[Joanne98]

Just in case you didn't know. FOX NEWS owned by the REPTILE Rupert Murdock has been attacking your countries everyday for the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

Whether you agree that he should have been released or not isn't the point. It's about whether Scotland and the UK are sovereign countries that don't have to ask the US what to do with their prisoners.

FOX news seems to think you have to answer to THEM!

Tell FOX News to take their complaints and SHOVE THEM UP THEIR BOSSY ASSES!

Join the boycott....

http://foxnewsboycott.com/

http://colorofchange.org/

[vadawg]

1. Good, the powers at B in scotland should be attacked over this

forget the US, heads should roll and i dont care what media outlets are the ones that puch this..

[Joanne98]

2. scotland and the UK are sovereign countries. They don't answer to us!

Besides we're hypocrites. A right-wing cuban terrorist is walking around miami FREE even though he blew up an airplane.

Luis Posada Carriles

Cuban terrorist Luis Posada Carriles indicted on new charges

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL – April 8, 9:25 p.m.

EL PASO, Texas (Associated Press) — An anti-Castro Cuban militant was accused Wednesday in a federal indictment of lying about his involvement in a series of 1997 bombings that targeted tourist spots in Cuba.

Luis Posada Carriles, a former CIA operative and U.S. Army soldier, was indicted on 11 counts, including perjury and obstruction of a federal proceeding. The 81-year-old militant had previously been indicted on six counts, including immigration fraud and lying to federal authorities in a bid to become a naturalized U.S. citizen.

The indictment is the first time Posada has been accused in the United States of being involved in the bombings. Cuban authorities have long accused him of orchestrating the bombings as well as a deadly 1976 bombing of a Cuban jetliner.
http://cubajournal.blogspot.com/2009/04/cuban-terrorist-luis-posada-carriles.html

[vadawg]

28. frankly the US does have a say in this as i believe US citizens were killed

but frankly all that matters is that someone is held to account for this and frankly i dont care if it takes a fox news or the sun newspaper or whatever to get it done.

[Spider Jerusalem]

31. Doesn't matter if US citizens were killed, or Polish, or French, or German

there's no justification for attempting to dictate how another country may enforce its own laws.

[cwydro]

6. You and I are in the minority here on this issue, I think.

Everyone seems to think it was just peachy that they let a terrorist who was CONVICTED of blowing up an airplane go free and home to a hero's welcome.

[paulsby]

14. i'd be interested in a definitive poll

of what the scots think about this. i'll bet the citizens of scotland are pretty damn outraged. i don't blame them for their leaders HIDEOUS decision to release the bomber.

[cwydro]

18. Yes, me too.

I would think the majority are not pleased also.

I don't understand the sympathy for terrorists I've seen here.

[paulsby]

21. i suggest 3 reasons

1) the rightwing in the US is against the release, therefore it must be a good idea :)
2) it is a putative blow (or seen to be) against the "war on terror", so since the war on terror sucks, this is a good idea
3) a fair %age believe various conspiracy theories. iow, he wasn't guilty. he's a patsy

probably a few more along these lines

[Joe Chi Minh]

30. You've hit the nail on the head. I'm shocked at the utter ignorance of people,

when the truth about Meghari's trial and its extraordinary deficiencies has not been difficult to find, even in right-wing newspapers in the UK.

Dr Jim Swire, whose own daughter was a victim of the crash, has long been adamant he is innocent; as has Labour MP, Tam Dalziel. Thatcher repeatedly refused to talk about the matter with, there evidently being "larger issues" involved.

[ensho]

3. agree - Scotland and the rest of the world should ignore Fox news

bunch of paid propagandists

[Curtland1015]

4. Something to think about though... not everyone in Scotland agrees with what their Government did.

Just because their Government did it, doesn't mean everyone approved. Many (MANY many...) Scottish citizens are against the release.

[Joanne98]

5. That's find. Let them hash it out. But get FOX out of their business first!

[Curtland1015]

7. I see your point, but, as strange as it sounds, many are in favor of the call to boycott too.

They think it will punish the politicians that allowed it to happen.

Check out the comments under the story to see some examples of this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8217857.stm



For the record, I DO agree with the OP. I don't think it's our business to stick our nose in this. I just wanted to provide a bit of the alternate opinion...

[Joanne98]

8. Sounds like FREEPERS posting to me.

Read some of your comments:

Sadly, I must show my support for the victims of Lockerbie, and now forego my favorite luxury, that being imported single malt scotch whisky. As an American of Scottish descent, this is particularly painful, though not as painful as watching a mass murdered be set free. On the bright side, I will instead enjoy my Jack Daniel's Tennessee whisky and Kentucky Bourbon, which will actually save me money, a welcome side benefit of Scotland's cruelty to the families of those lost by the acts of the murdered they deemed worthy of "mercy." His release is a slap in the face to civilized societies.
John, Washington, DC

Lets make this painful for Scotland, Scotch is off the shopping list along with anything else that they make. Trade with Lybia if you like but not me.
David, Tamworth UK

I like my single malt scotch, I like the Scots though I find them a bit dour at times. I have no intention of boycotting anything Scottish (except perhaps haggis which I had once in Scotland and swore never again); the very idea is absurd. Why? Because Megrahi was a bit player here, he did not do this on his own.
Leonard, New York City, USA

There will not be any real support for such a boycott. This is just another stupid reaction by my fellow citizens. It is really time for me to immigrate elsewhere!
David, Chicago, USA

Anti-Scottish sentiment? I have yet to see any. Also 6 years ago French Fries weren't renamed for the entire country. The manager of the capitol's cafeteria just changed the labels as a joke. Also wine poured down drains if it did happen was not widespread. Who is this Mr.Rivers?
Christopher, Washington DC, USA

This is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. What exactly is this boycott supposed to achieve? This will only hurt a population who are already struggling financially. Do any Americans actually believe the majority of Scotland agrees and supports the decision to free this man? If these people want to vent their anger, I suggest they look at the politicians who made the decision, and not the Scottish people. Are they failing to remember how many Scots also lost their lives that day?
Neil, Arbroath, Scotland

I think most people are bright enough to realise not everyone in Scotland is in agreement with the release. I am sure that even the most hardline will understand that Bells, Johnny Walker and even the Moffat Woollen Mill, were left out of the decision making process. As such, pouring whisky "down the gutter", or burning shortbread will only result then them being out a few quid and having an empty bottle and a singed biscuit. Also to be honest, after reading numerous comments on various forums; anyone that posts comments like: "I am ashamed of my 15% Scottish Blood" or "We should blow up one of their flights", I can live without bumping into in the pub anyway...
John, Edinburgh, Scotland

I'm from Scotland. As for Scotland being the "Gold Standard" legal system, I've never heard such rubbish. Scotlands legal system is a joke. If you are American help us out and punish our incompetant and lilly livered politicians.
Brian, Greenock

I think the boycott's a good idea. Alas, I shall not participate. As an Edinburgh resident, I would have to drive to Berwick to buy my groceries and that's not feasible. Although the release of Megrahi is something over which reasonable people might disagree, Mr MacAskill's sanctimonious and paternalistic justification of it--reminiscent of the Bush administration at its worst--and the subsequent furor it engendered has exposed the depth and level of anti-Americanism in Scotland in particular and Britain generally.
Frank, Edinburgh, Scotland

I am appalled by the actions of our and Scottish 'politicians', and whole heartedly agree with any boycott against Scottish products, as a mark of protest. Being proudly British, I feel as if should personnaly appologise to all the still grieving families for the actions of our elected leaders, and the back room dealing, that allows a convicted mass murderer freedom.
Simon, Stockton on Tees, UK

Yes, am in suport of d boycott, this megrahi's issue is an international affair, scotts can't just release him becos of one stupid excuse, america should stop all deal with scotish, dis guy may strike again, only God kwon's.
Dr Akhator, Benin city, Nigeria

We including all UK should be proud that we stand by our principals and can be the bigger person. Should we be more worried that we can't stand up for ourselves or that the richest country and well educated population thinks a reaction like this is justified.
Steven, Perth, Scotland

America just wants a bogey man to indefinitely punish and the talk of a Scots product boycott is clearly ridiculous. The Scots should be praised for following due process and envied for the high quality of their legal system. Richard, Pontypridd, Wales

Boycott Scottish products in the U.S., that's funny. Everything here comes from China anyway.
Jeff, Alton, USA

I'll be boycotting macdonalds - they sound Scottish.
jimbo,

I have already been boycotting the Scottish Football team for years as they are rotten. I will continue this boycott and no amount of terrorist releases will make me change my mind.
Sean, Greenock

[Curtland1015]

9. Quite possible.

Of course, some of them are likely hard core conservative, Scottish or not... and that begs the question of if we can even trust the tags saying where they're from. I wouldn't doubt it.

[Joanne98]

13. I used to read the comments in the Guardian when they were exposing

The lies Bush was telling about Iraq. There were tons of freeper types posting all kinds of shit over there. They think they can fool foreigners. I started posting links to Free Republic to let them know who they really were. The Brits were grateful. The freepers where livid. lol

The point is that it's not our business. It was their prisoner and maybe they were just trying to save some money by releasing him. He's dying anyway.

Who died and made Fox News GAWD!

[paulsby]

17. it's "their" prisoner

who killed a whole bunch of americans. reverse the situation, a US held terrorist who killed a bunch of scots. you don't think they'd be pissed if we released him?

fwiw, i'll bet dollars to doughnuts that if and when the PEOPLE in scotland are polled, they are overwhelmingly against this release.

[Joanne98]

22. As long as Luis Posada Carriles who ALSO blew up an airplane is free

Walking around in Miami we have no cred..

[paulsby]

24. ah yes, the "but what about X" argument

iow, an injustice is ok, especially if done against americans, if we can point to something bad the US did.

yawn. doesn't that argument get old? remember what yer kindegarten teacher taught you? "two wrongs don't make a right"

we have plenty of cred. and it the US people and media that are speaking. neither had any power over whether carriles was imprisoned or not.

hth

[CalvinandHobbes]

25. Boo Hoo.

[vadawg]

26. mate people forget all the time about the people on the ground

i want fox news and every other news outlet to put this front and centre, if you live in the US call the tourist board in Scotland, the only way anything will get done about this is if enough noise is made about it.

[KansDem]

10. FOX = "Full OF Xhit"

Enough said...

[Turborama]

11. Just a minor correction to the title, Scotland is part of the UK

In fact, if they're 'boycotting' Scotland, aren't they in effect 'boycotting' the UK?

[TheBigotBasher]

20. Scotland has a very devolved Government.

Not quite independent Constitutionally (although the ruling SNP do campaign for full independence). Matters relating to Courts have been independent since the Act of Union (they hhave their own legal system) and judicial matters are the responsibility of the Scottish Government. British Ministers would not have been able to sway the Scottish National Party on this, never mind the US and especially Fox News.

[-..__...]

12. We should be boycotting Scotland.

no tourist dollars and/or products manufactured in Scotland.

Besides... calling for a boycott of Fox News over this is pointless and silly.

As a matter of habit, either a person/viewer watches Fox News, or they don't.

The regular FN viewership is very highly unlikely to cease watching them over an incident that has pissed off a good many Americans.

[Joanne98]

15. Nice to know you're a Fox news fan!

The boycott goes FORWARD!

[Fire1]

19. True and I'm one of them. I'll be drinking my scotch, too. n/t

[Lydia Leftcoast]

16. Not to mention Fox's bashing of the NHS

and their general trait of being lying, shameless mouthpieces for the worst elements of the Republican party and a rallying point for the mean and dumb people of the world.

[Joanne98]

23. Yeah And the Canadian healthcare system too. Everybody should boycott them.

All they do is talk SHIT!

[polly7]

29. Shaw, my satellite provider, has dropped FOX off

their lineup unless specifically 'asked' for it (they still are required to 'offer' it if you call in for anything at all). It's not included automatically anymore with the other networks .... I asked why is that and was told "because they made negative comments about our army and Shaw (Starchoice then) received hundreds of thousands of phonecalls pressuring them to drop it. The poor girl who offered it to me cut my answer short, I guess every call is taped and apparently they don't appreciate negative comments like "no I don't want fucking FOX, that shit is just garbage".

[kelly1mm]

27. So we here on DU are supposed to boycott Whole Foods,

one of the most socially responsible major grocers in the country, because the CEO wants health care reform - just not the correct type of reform but we are supposed to mock those who are outraged at a government that allowed a convicted terrorist to go home to a hero's welcome in what looks like a quid pro quo for access to energy projects? Nothing like living in a black and white world - must be so easy not to have to critically think too much!

[Lex]

32. do what you want

no one is making you do anything

[CJCRANE]

33. All this outrage

but no one asks why there is no one in prison for the Omagh bombing, 9/11, 7/7 ... and now Lockerbie?

Could there be deep politics or geo-politics involved in all of these terror attacks ...

[mwooldri]

34. If you know people in the UK who can file complaints with OFCOM...

... then encourage them to do so. Unlike the FCC, Fox News broadcasts into the UK are regulated (yes actually regulated) by OFCOM. The standards of broadcasting are similar to what the BBC and other local broadcasters are stuck to - but there is *some* leeway on Fox News because it is not a domestic broadcaster. Plus Fox News have already been censured by OFCOM already for being unfair to the BBC.

If enough UK residents file complaints then OFCOM have to investigate and they can get censured again. Taking off the air - not going to happen, but fined? Definitely a possibility plus some appropriate apology airtime (UK time of course).

Mark.